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> the 409a is only going to show you the maximum possible value While the points about uncertainty of options are quite accurate, this detail isn’t really true
by CPLX 1y ago
> the 409a is only going to show you the maximum possible value
While the points about uncertainty of options are quite accurate, this detail isn’t really true.
For the most part a 409a is the lowest reasonable valuation the company could talk the auditors into accepting. The lower it is the less tax paid and everyone knows that.
- bcyn 1y agoYou're correct about valuation, but the parent post was meant to address "how much liquid dollars should you expect to receive vs. 409a." You are likely to receive less in most cases (read: unless there are wildly successful public liquidity events) due to liquidation preferences.
- x0xrx 1y agoPlenty of (non-VC backed) startups raise some money and then sell privately; it’s often the case that preference does not cause the common stock value to drop below the most recent 409a in these cases. (In my experience, the 409a is on the order of 20% of the most recent raise, and preference is not more than 50%, in my area. And obviously you hope to sell for more than the last raise!).
- CPLX 1y agoAny reasonable 409a will be fully aware of those preference terms and will have factored them in.