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> seems like a 75mile battery + gas is both more practical and requires less infra I think it's hard to economically hit that and give a car that folks are OK
by to11mtm 1y ago
> seems like a 75mile battery + gas is both more practical and requires less infra
I think it's hard to economically hit that and give a car that folks are OK driving within limitations.
Mazda tried to do a range extender setup on the MX-30, however it didn't sell that well and my understanding is the range extender wasn't good for hills or highway cases.
Non Range Extender setups, actually typically work better if you're stuck in gas mode than a range extender, mostly because you can use the mechanical energy from the ICE more directly than the losses of something feeding energy directly into the drivetrain. However, once you hit that point anything after 2 or 3 KWh of battery is just dead weight on the car. I'm guessing that's why even the Prius prime is only around 40 miles of range.
Of course, the elephant in the room is the US addiction to huge vehicles (which need even bigger batteries...)
Edit:
Seeing the edit of what I'm replying to, I'll add that yes PHEVs are probably a 'better' option than BEVs for many people, but the cost of a PHEV can be as much or more than a BEV. Look at a Chevrolet Equinox EV vs a Rav4 Prime. The Rav4 Prime is 10K more expensive. Happy to consider a different comparison here but overall nobody has figured out how to make a PHEV that is cheaper than a similar EV.
- amazingamazing 1y agolet's look at a car that's available as all options: the kia Niro - and let's look at the 2022 since I found the info easily: $28,790: MSRP of the 2022 Niro L HEV (hybrid) $34,390: MSRP of the 2022 Niro EX PHEV (plug-in hybrid with an electric range of 51 kms. $46,790: starting price of the 2022 Niro EX EV (all battery electric vehicle with a range of 386 kms) it's just simple math. if you take a 400 mile road trip 4 times a year, and your electricity is totally free for the sake of example, gas is 5 bucks a gallon, how long does it take for the EV to pay itself off, assuming the regular commute is 40km daily otherwise? answer is almost 15 years. doesn't make any sense.