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You can't claim that while claiming wanting to elect a black president wasn't a big driver in much of the turnout for Obama. There were multiple musicians liter

You can't claim that while claiming wanting to elect a black president wasn't a big driver in much of the turnout for Obama. There were multiple musicians literally making songs about finally being able to elect a black president.

paulryanrogers 1y ago
Obama was genuinely qualified to be president. Trump was clearly unfit in 2016 (having never held elected office and run nearly all his businesses into the ground), and constitutionally disqualified after Jan 6 2021. Trump was also reluctant to denounce or criticize white nationalists. He repeated and reposted neo-Nazi content and phrases. He is the one ordering a zealous yet haphazard dismantling of anything that breathes the words racial equity, and without a hint of pushback from his voters.
- bobxmax 1y ago
  That's your opinion though. Obviously lots of people disagree.
krapp 1y ago
Trump's initial popularity was due in no small part to the anger of American white supremacists and the alt-right, this was well documented even back in 2016[0,3]. That the President elected after Obama was the man who mainstreamed the birther conspiracies against Obama was not a coincidence. It wasn't entirely about Obama, but he was the straw that broke white America's back. [0]https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-and-the-twilight-of-white-america/482655/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-... [1]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-white-nationalists-alt-right-214388/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump... [2]https://archive.is/tZpFB https://archive.is/tZpFB
- bobxmax 1y ago
  This wasn't because of racism. This belief is why the left keeps losing to him... a total misunderstanding of what brought him into power. Some of the earliest figureheads of the so-called "alt right" movement were homosexuals and racial minorities Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age. His win was a revolt against emergent phenomenon like "cancel culture".
  - dragonwriter 1y ago
    > Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age. So, it wasn't bigotry it was just a reaction against the rejection of bigotry?
    - bobxmax 1y ago
      The social justice age wasn't a rejection of bigotry. It was a Mccarthy-esque movement of dividing everybody between sexual and racial lines into a hierarchy of who was and wasn't allowed to speak. Speaking against the party line meant exile. The SJW/Wokeism movement had nothing to do with true equity and "rejection of bigotry". That's why there was such a revolt against it.
      - lostlogin 1y ago
        > Speaking against the party line meant exile. But that has got worse, not better. Trump is threatening to cancel contracts with Musk and to Munich him if he funds opposition. That’s the bluntest example of ‘cancel culture’ you’ll find. Also: Musk and Trump deserve each other.
        bobxmax 1y ago
        Of course, I didn't claim that the republicans aren't now doing everything they claimed to revolt against but worse. As it turns out "free speech" absolutism only applies to things that pwn the libz.
  - cycomanic 1y ago

paulryanrogers 1y ago

Obama was genuinely qualified to be president. Trump was clearly unfit in 2016 (having never held elected office and run nearly all his businesses into the ground), and constitutionally disqualified after Jan 6 2021. Trump was also reluctant to denounce or criticize white nationalists. He repeated and reposted neo-Nazi content and phrases. He is the one ordering a zealous yet haphazard dismantling of anything that breathes the words racial equity, and without a hint of pushback from his voters.

bobxmax 1y ago
That's your opinion though. Obviously lots of people disagree.

krapp 1y ago

Trump's initial popularity was due in no small part to the anger of American white supremacists and the alt-right, this was well documented even back in 2016[0,3]. That the President elected after Obama was the man who mainstreamed the birther conspiracies against Obama was not a coincidence. It wasn't entirely about Obama, but he was the straw that broke white America's back. [0]https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-trump-and-the-twilight-of-white-america/482655/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-... [1]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-white-nationalists-alt-right-214388/ https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump... [2]https://archive.is/tZpFB https://archive.is/tZpFB

bobxmax 1y ago
This wasn't because of racism. This belief is why the left keeps losing to him... a total misunderstanding of what brought him into power. Some of the earliest figureheads of the so-called "alt right" movement were homosexuals and racial minorities Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age. His win was a revolt against emergent phenomenon like "cancel culture".
- dragonwriter 1y ago
  > Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age. So, it wasn't bigotry it was just a reaction against the rejection of bigotry?
  - bobxmax 1y ago
    The social justice age wasn't a rejection of bigotry. It was a Mccarthy-esque movement of dividing everybody between sexual and racial lines into a hierarchy of who was and wasn't allowed to speak. Speaking against the party line meant exile. The SJW/Wokeism movement had nothing to do with true equity and "rejection of bigotry". That's why there was such a revolt against it.
    - lostlogin 1y ago
      > Speaking against the party line meant exile. But that has got worse, not better. Trump is threatening to cancel contracts with Musk and to Munich him if he funds opposition. That’s the bluntest example of ‘cancel culture’ you’ll find. Also: Musk and Trump deserve each other.
      - bobxmax 1y ago
        Of course, I didn't claim that the republicans aren't now doing everything they claimed to revolt against but worse. As it turns out "free speech" absolutism only applies to things that pwn the libz.
- cycomanic 1y ago