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It has though. I used commoditized LLMs to build an entire website with paying users in 2 months. Cost me <$200. It stood up to the Hacker News hug of death

It has though. I used commoditized LLMs to build an entire website with paying users in 2 months. Cost me <$200. It stood up to the Hacker News hug of death without breaking a sweat. The generation of code and pixels is being commoditized, whether you like it or not.

collingreen 1y ago
Asking for opinions then telling people their opinions are wrong is silly and will discourage anyone else who might be willing to have a good faith convo about your original question.
- gametorch 1y ago
  Am I supposed to lie? I think generative AI is commoditized. The commenter denied that but gave an explanation about something else. Whether generative AI constitutes art is a separate question merely of semantics, about which I did not deny the commenter their own opinion. You're the one acting bad faith, it feels. I spoke truth about commoditization. I did not deny them their opinion about the semantics of what constitutes art.
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    I can explain it to you, I just expect a good-faith response in return. From the outside looking in, it doesn't even feel like you're trying to argue your point. Your example is a self-made webapp, which seems to be unsuccessful and not very popular among game developers. You have one success story, your own, and it isn't for a popular video game or a difficult, creative task. How am I supposed to believe you when other people don't want what you have? From your other comment: > I can generate a really good looking one for 10 cents because this component of art has been commodified. You can 3D print a decent carburetor, but that doesn't mean that component of car manufacturing has been commodified. You have to compete in the market, and AI-generated art (much like 3D printed carburetors) has to live in it's own niche submarket. It is not an acceptable substitute for downstream consumers of this medium. Look at the backlash to Marvel's Secret Invasion when they thought AI was "good enough" for prestige television. Nobody's going to stop you from chasing this dream, but I'll tell you outright that I don't want to pay for a game with AI art. The games industry is commodified well enough that I don't have to settle for your product.
    - gametorch 1y ago
      > which seems to be unsuccessful and not very popular among game developers It just launched and we already have paying users.

collingreen 1y ago

Asking for opinions then telling people their opinions are wrong is silly and will discourage anyone else who might be willing to have a good faith convo about your original question.

gametorch 1y ago
Am I supposed to lie? I think generative AI is commoditized. The commenter denied that but gave an explanation about something else. Whether generative AI constitutes art is a separate question merely of semantics, about which I did not deny the commenter their own opinion. You're the one acting bad faith, it feels. I spoke truth about commoditization. I did not deny them their opinion about the semantics of what constitutes art.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  I can explain it to you, I just expect a good-faith response in return. From the outside looking in, it doesn't even feel like you're trying to argue your point. Your example is a self-made webapp, which seems to be unsuccessful and not very popular among game developers. You have one success story, your own, and it isn't for a popular video game or a difficult, creative task. How am I supposed to believe you when other people don't want what you have? From your other comment: > I can generate a really good looking one for 10 cents because this component of art has been commodified. You can 3D print a decent carburetor, but that doesn't mean that component of car manufacturing has been commodified. You have to compete in the market, and AI-generated art (much like 3D printed carburetors) has to live in it's own niche submarket. It is not an acceptable substitute for downstream consumers of this medium. Look at the backlash to Marvel's Secret Invasion when they thought AI was "good enough" for prestige television. Nobody's going to stop you from chasing this dream, but I'll tell you outright that I don't want to pay for a game with AI art. The games industry is commodified well enough that I don't have to settle for your product.
  - gametorch 1y ago
    > which seems to be unsuccessful and not very popular among game developers It just launched and we already have paying users.