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Reasoning exists on a spectrum, not as a binary property. I'm not claiming that LLMs reason identically to humans in all contexts. You act as if statistical pr
by farts_mckensy 1y ago
Reasoning exists on a spectrum, not as a binary property. I'm not claiming that LLMs reason identically to humans in all contexts.
You act as if statistical processes can’t ever scale into reasoning, despite the fact that humans themselves are gradient-trained statistical learners over evolutionary and developmental timescales.
- Nevermark 1y agoI think you might re-read what I wrote. I very strongly agree with you. :)
- farts_mckensy 1y agoWell, at least someone does.
- Terr_ 1y ago> cretins proclaiming that LLMs aren't truly capable of reasoning > Reasoning is not difficult to define > Reasoning exists on a spectrum > statistical processes [can] scale into reasoning It seems like quite a descent here, starting with the lofty heights of condemning skeptics as "cretins" and insisting the definition is easy... down to what sounds like the introduction to a flavor of panpsychism [0], where even water flowing downhill is a "statistical process" which at enough scale would be "reasoning". I don't think that's a faithful match to what other people mean [1] when they argue LLMs don't "reason." [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panpsychism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panpsychism [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy
- farts_mckensy 1y agoYou think because reasoning exists on a spectrum, therefore everything is conscious? You sound a bit too desperate to try to prove me wrong. Also you edited your comment post hoc to add sources. Who cares?