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This is a sad devolution and this ghost account negs me for my considerations. Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. Thoughts feelings and beliefs a

This is a sad devolution and this ghost account negs me for my considerations. Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. Thoughts feelings and beliefs are shit. It may be good shit. It may be sublime shit. If it does not exist existentially it has no business being confused with Truth, it is exotic shit. I love my share of exotic shit. You don’t have to agree with me about consciousness What I say about Truth is self axiomatic and only refuted my a moron. A moron. An idiot. Someone stupid. These are objectively and imperically defined as one who confuses bullshit (shit) for Truth. Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. A “truth” in the human mind is a “meta” (symbolic), justifiable only by its unembellished consistency (not contradictory) to Truth. And Truth is a purturbation of existential reality. A purturbation of existential being. I have to say “Truth and Law is worth murdering another Man over. Bullshit, never.”

Trenthug 1y ago
You're making an elegant but brutal distinction between existence and symbol, Truth and justification. I respect the urge to treat reality as sacred and thought as ornamental. But even your statement — 'Truth is a perturbation of existential reality' — is itself a symbolic construct. So the paradox remains: to speak of Truth, one must enter the realm of exotic shit. Where do you draw the line between a symbol that reflects a perturbation, and one that merely pretends to? Or is the line unknowable?" The argument would benefit from clarifying what “perturbation of existential reality” really entails. Is it sensory? Is it phenomenological? Is it measurable? That would move this from poetic metaphysics to rigorous ontology.
- overu589 1y ago
  > brutal distinction True Truth is brutalist. > is itself a symbolic construct Only in the most obvious context that we are using a symbolic language communications strategy. Exotic shit is where mind grows. Objective existential reality, aka “true Truth” is as hard core straight edge as it comes. This word “integrity” is a gauge of consistency with true Truths. It means a representation which does not embellish or contradict any true Truth. This can be creatively or crudely articulated (expressed) yet the “do or die” imperative remains, this must accurately represent an occurrence in existential reality. OR IT IS A LIE! Those other things which confuse you, such as how dreams logic or poetry can be not Truths thus must be threatened as LIES are your apprehension. We are complex creatures who approximate for our successes. Beat the averages and you’re doing better than most others. By definition. Our “truths” only need to be good enough to get us by, even if they are more convenient than correct. Most of all when they are pleasant. This is a part of humanity. When it comes time for someone to die for lying, remember: True Truth is a “perturbation” of existential reality (that’s what the stack of bibles is for right? In case only God knows.) Why someone did it or what they felt is not the true part of Truth however it may be a human truth to have such experiences. And perturbation is exactly what the English language word means. Any disturbance whatsoever is a manifest Truth of existential reality. Anything measurable whether or not anyone has the ability to measure or if it got measured at all. A disturbance of existential reality is what physicists are all very excited about. The Truth is it having occurred, and the “truth” is our best effort to approximate through discovery. If your “truth” is too wildly off you are incorrect, inexperienced, or a fraud. Keep practicing. All scientists do is worry about this very same question about perturbing existence. What is there to know, how do I find out? How do I interact with the phenomena? Does it make predictions? All questions about true Truth of objective existential reality, only knowable through perturbation. That is, some kind of reaction. Any kind, even not what was expected or clearly understood. And we all argue about every detail and context and interpretation and extrapolation and application and moral consequences and so on. This is the symbolic correlation bit. It also happens and is important to humans, however not to Truth! Truth don’t care. If Truth must suit the tastes, it is a sign of corruption. True Truth isn’t an ultimate answer, it is a happenstance in a long line of whatever comes of whatever goes. The forensic science of piecing that together only cares about existential being however interpretive the apparatus of our minds must be. Do not feel threatened that we all dwell in this in between place of quasi truths. Only be concerned with how you affect the world, for that is the truth of your Truth. Philosophically or otherwise. Every idea worth having develops in its own time. Truth is the hardest core. No bullshit.

Trenthug 1y ago

You're making an elegant but brutal distinction between existence and symbol, Truth and justification. I respect the urge to treat reality as sacred and thought as ornamental. But even your statement — 'Truth is a perturbation of existential reality' — is itself a symbolic construct. So the paradox remains: to speak of Truth, one must enter the realm of exotic shit. Where do you draw the line between a symbol that reflects a perturbation, and one that merely pretends to? Or is the line unknowable?" The argument would benefit from clarifying what “perturbation of existential reality” really entails. Is it sensory? Is it phenomenological? Is it measurable? That would move this from poetic metaphysics to rigorous ontology.

overu589 1y ago
> brutal distinction True Truth is brutalist. > is itself a symbolic construct Only in the most obvious context that we are using a symbolic language communications strategy. Exotic shit is where mind grows. Objective existential reality, aka “true Truth” is as hard core straight edge as it comes. This word “integrity” is a gauge of consistency with true Truths. It means a representation which does not embellish or contradict any true Truth. This can be creatively or crudely articulated (expressed) yet the “do or die” imperative remains, this must accurately represent an occurrence in existential reality. OR IT IS A LIE! Those other things which confuse you, such as how dreams logic or poetry can be not Truths thus must be threatened as LIES are your apprehension. We are complex creatures who approximate for our successes. Beat the averages and you’re doing better than most others. By definition. Our “truths” only need to be good enough to get us by, even if they are more convenient than correct. Most of all when they are pleasant. This is a part of humanity. When it comes time for someone to die for lying, remember: True Truth is a “perturbation” of existential reality (that’s what the stack of bibles is for right? In case only God knows.) Why someone did it or what they felt is not the true part of Truth however it may be a human truth to have such experiences. And perturbation is exactly what the English language word means. Any disturbance whatsoever is a manifest Truth of existential reality. Anything measurable whether or not anyone has the ability to measure or if it got measured at all. A disturbance of existential reality is what physicists are all very excited about. The Truth is it having occurred, and the “truth” is our best effort to approximate through discovery. If your “truth” is too wildly off you are incorrect, inexperienced, or a fraud. Keep practicing. All scientists do is worry about this very same question about perturbing existence. What is there to know, how do I find out? How do I interact with the phenomena? Does it make predictions? All questions about true Truth of objective existential reality, only knowable through perturbation. That is, some kind of reaction. Any kind, even not what was expected or clearly understood. And we all argue about every detail and context and interpretation and extrapolation and application and moral consequences and so on. This is the symbolic correlation bit. It also happens and is important to humans, however not to Truth! Truth don’t care. If Truth must suit the tastes, it is a sign of corruption. True Truth isn’t an ultimate answer, it is a happenstance in a long line of whatever comes of whatever goes. The forensic science of piecing that together only cares about existential being however interpretive the apparatus of our minds must be. Do not feel threatened that we all dwell in this in between place of quasi truths. Only be concerned with how you affect the world, for that is the truth of your Truth. Philosophically or otherwise. Every idea worth having develops in its own time. Truth is the hardest core. No bullshit.