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I cannot find it now because OpenAI blocks archive.org (oh the irony), but previously their API privacy policy said no data retention beyond 30 (or 90, I can't
by senko 1y ago
I cannot find it now because OpenAI blocks archive.org (oh the irony), but previously their API privacy policy said no data retention beyond 30 (or 90, I can't recall) day period for abuse/monitoring. I know because I was researching this for an (EU) customer.
Now, the promise is still to not train on API inputs/outputs, but the retention promise is nowhere to be found, unless you're an Enterprise customer (ZDR).
Moreover, at least in my understanding of the order, the court ordered them to keep ALL, not "all unless for those you promised not to keep":
> OpenAI is NOW DIRECTED to preserve and segregate all output log data that would otherwise be deleted on a going forward basis until further order of the Court (in essence, the output log data that OpenAI has been destroying), whether such data might be deleted at a user’s request or because of “numerous privacy laws and regulations” that might require OpenAI to do so.
So in effect, the statement you quoted is false, and OpenAI is actually in breach of their privacy policies.
I asked ChatGPT to parse this in case I misunderstood it, and its interpretation was:
> The company is ordered to preserve all output log data that would otherwise be deleted, going forward, regardless of the reason for deletion (user request, privacy law, default retention policy, etc.).
> In other words: They must stop deleting any output log data, even if it would normally be deleted by default or at a user's request.
> This is more than just keeping data they would normally retain — it's a preservation order for data they would otherwise destroy.
As a result, OpenAI is now unusable for serious business use in Europe. Since the competition (Anthropic, Google) is not affected by this court order, the only loser here is OpenAI.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> in effect, the statement you quoted is false, and OpenAI is actually in breach of their privacy policies The statement is from OpenAI’s own press release. I still wouldn’t argue that their lies somehow make the court order unreasonable. > OpenAI is now unusable for serious business use in Europe This is entirely in OpenAI’s control. They could convert everyone in the EU to ZDR. They choose not to, and that’s their right. (As it is the right of the EU to deem that noncompliance.)