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Those events happened when widespread support and supply were brought into to deal with the relatively limited destruction. This is destruction on a scale that

Those events happened when widespread support and supply were brought into to deal with the relatively limited destruction. This is destruction on a scale that has not been seen in the likes of civilization outside the bronze age collapse. The fact is there is going to be no one coming to help replace burned up hoes and shovels. Threads and the Day after weren't a snapshot of one single city - they were a snapshot of what would be happening everywhere else at the same time.

mopsi 1y ago
> The fact is there is going to be no one coming to help replace burned up hoes and shovels. Why? Why would it be happening everywhere - in South America, Africa, Asia, and many other places - at the same time?
- wat10000 1y ago
  Asia, because there are a lot of targets there. South America and Africa would probably get off pretty lightly. And then they'd experience the worst economic depression that has ever been seen due to the complete collapse of global trade. They're not going to be up for the job of rescuing entire continents.
  - testing22321 1y ago
    No, but they’ll go on living as they have for 300,000 years. I spent time in 35 African countries getting as remote as possible. The vast major Of remote peoples lives would not change at all if entire continents were completely destroyed (unless they cop the fallout, or the ash causes crops to fail).
    - wat10000 1y ago
      The discussion here isn’t about whether the lives of remote people would be upended, but whether those countries would help to rebuild the ones hit by the war, the way devastated cities were rebuilt after WWII.
      - testing22321 1y ago
        With all the fallout? I doubt anyone would be living in those place for a very long time
        wat10000 1y ago
        And yet: "How is anyone supposed to take that seriously? Is that how Cologne, Dresden, Würzburg and Pforzheim, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki looked a decade after they had been destroyed in Allied bombing raids? The truth is that even after infrastructure gets bombed back to the Middle Ages, life remains surprisingly normal, and people quickly rebuild." That's what I was responding to.
        testing22321 1y ago
        The nukes that would fall today are a few orders of magnitude bigger than those that fell in Japan, and there would be many orders of magnitude more of them, and close together. The world has never seen destruction and fallout that is even remotely comparable to what we’d get.

mopsi 1y ago

> The fact is there is going to be no one coming to help replace burned up hoes and shovels. Why? Why would it be happening everywhere - in South America, Africa, Asia, and many other places - at the same time?

wat10000 1y ago
Asia, because there are a lot of targets there. South America and Africa would probably get off pretty lightly. And then they'd experience the worst economic depression that has ever been seen due to the complete collapse of global trade. They're not going to be up for the job of rescuing entire continents.
- testing22321 1y ago
  No, but they’ll go on living as they have for 300,000 years. I spent time in 35 African countries getting as remote as possible. The vast major Of remote peoples lives would not change at all if entire continents were completely destroyed (unless they cop the fallout, or the ash causes crops to fail).
  - wat10000 1y ago
    The discussion here isn’t about whether the lives of remote people would be upended, but whether those countries would help to rebuild the ones hit by the war, the way devastated cities were rebuilt after WWII.
    - testing22321 1y ago
      With all the fallout? I doubt anyone would be living in those place for a very long time
      - wat10000 1y ago
        And yet: "How is anyone supposed to take that seriously? Is that how Cologne, Dresden, Würzburg and Pforzheim, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki looked a decade after they had been destroyed in Allied bombing raids? The truth is that even after infrastructure gets bombed back to the Middle Ages, life remains surprisingly normal, and people quickly rebuild." That's what I was responding to.
        testing22321 1y ago
        The nukes that would fall today are a few orders of magnitude bigger than those that fell in Japan, and there would be many orders of magnitude more of them, and close together. The world has never seen destruction and fallout that is even remotely comparable to what we’d get.