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Mozilla post is quite bad at explaining what's wrong so I went to Meta AI app to try it myself: - When you have a chat it has "Share" button - When you click

Mozilla post is quite bad at explaining what's wrong so I went to Meta AI app to try it myself: - When you have a chat it has "Share" button - When you click on the button it shows you a draft of the chat with "Post" button - Clicking on the "Post" publishes the chat to public and sends you to "Discover" tab - From published chat you can click on "send" icon to send link to the chat to someone else IMO it is in fact dark pattern and goes against of how people perceive "Share" action. The fact you can't share without making chat public is also not cool. For example top discover post I see right now is stylized picture of a baby, with original photo available if you open the post. I'm pretty sure the person who posted it was trying to share the picture with their relatives/friends. Overall: Meta at its "best", better to say sorry rather than ask for permission...

lo0dot0 1y ago
If you are unsure what you are doing, do not do it. For example, I just posted to hackernews. The button in my app says "submit", but doesn't warn me about posting to the internet. Is there any problem with that? No, because I know what I'm doing and anyone using the Internet should too.
- alanbernstein 1y ago
  The nature of "being unsure" often inherently precludes being aware of that unsureness. Some companies are well known to exploit this basic fact of existence.
- soulofmischief 1y ago
  Let's not pretend that context doesn't matter, including the average technical proficiency of the intended audience, or the fact that HN's conventions are recognizable to people who have grown up with Usenet, BBS, forums, aggregators, etc. That is not the case here.
  - lo0dot0 1y ago
    You don't need context there is terms and services that no one reads
    - soulofmischief 1y ago
      This argument kind of defeats itself.
dm319 1y ago
> IMO it is in fact dark pattern and goes against of how people perceive "Share" action Yes, exactly this. I use 'share' all the time on my phone between various apps which privately share photos, webpages etc with other people through messaging apps. That is my current understanding of what 'share' means.

lo0dot0 1y ago

If you are unsure what you are doing, do not do it. For example, I just posted to hackernews. The button in my app says "submit", but doesn't warn me about posting to the internet. Is there any problem with that? No, because I know what I'm doing and anyone using the Internet should too.

alanbernstein 1y ago
The nature of "being unsure" often inherently precludes being aware of that unsureness. Some companies are well known to exploit this basic fact of existence.
soulofmischief 1y ago
Let's not pretend that context doesn't matter, including the average technical proficiency of the intended audience, or the fact that HN's conventions are recognizable to people who have grown up with Usenet, BBS, forums, aggregators, etc. That is not the case here.
- lo0dot0 1y ago
  You don't need context there is terms and services that no one reads
  - soulofmischief 1y ago
    This argument kind of defeats itself.

dm319 1y ago

> IMO it is in fact dark pattern and goes against of how people perceive "Share" action Yes, exactly this. I use 'share' all the time on my phone between various apps which privately share photos, webpages etc with other people through messaging apps. That is my current understanding of what 'share' means.