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What awkward questions? They're pretty open about their thinking. Why are we all still pretending that supporting Trump, who won the popular vote btw, is some

What awkward questions? They're pretty open about their thinking. Why are we all still pretending that supporting Trump, who won the popular vote btw, is some fringe position to take in America?

intermerda 1y ago
What does the awkwardness of question has to do with whether Trump won the popular vote or not? Hitler was popular in Germany and there were plenty of awkward questions later.
drcongo 1y ago
I don't think anyone is pretending it's a fringe position, but maybe people expect smart people to be smart. Personally I don't think many of the billionaire Silicon Valley set were supporting him ideologically, more that they're cowardly, milquetoast lickspittles who care more about their bank balance than anything else.
krapp 1y ago
Trump "won the popular vote" with the support of less than 30% of the total population, and a little less than 50% of the population who voted. That isn't fringe (although what even is fringe anymore,) but neither is it mainstream.
- ivewonyoung 1y ago
  > Trump "won the popular vote" with the support of less than 30% of the total population What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? There's polling that shows the opposite, that his margins would increase if the turnout was higher.
  - krapp 1y ago
    >What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? If you're talking about the popular vote, only the people who vote matter. I'm sure there are people who didn't vote for Trump but who support him. Certainly a lot of leftists and erstwhile Democrats stayed home or voted third party because they were disillusioned with Kamala Harris, which implicitly supports whatever the status quo winds up being. You can find polling that supports just about any narrative you like, but I don't think you can find much objective evidence that a significant majority of the American population supports Trump but most just didn't care enough to show up to the polls. Votes are the only objective data showing intent that we have, and they don't seem to indicate a sweeping mandate on Trump's behalf.
  - reaperducer 1y ago
    What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? By definition, if they supported him, they would have voted for him. That's what voting is for.
    - ivewonyoung 1y ago
      By definition, if they opposed him, they would have voted against him. That's what voting is for.
lazide 1y ago
There are a lot of situations and policies which are clearly prone to ‘leopards eating faces’ type situations around Trump, and won’t look good when it comes around like it inevitably will. the awkward questions are going to be of the form ‘what the fuck did you think was going to happen’?

What awkward questions? They're pretty open about their thinking. Why are we all still pretending that supporting Trump, who won the popular vote btw, is some fringe position to take in America?

intermerda 1y ago

What does the awkwardness of question has to do with whether Trump won the popular vote or not? Hitler was popular in Germany and there were plenty of awkward questions later.

drcongo 1y ago

I don't think anyone is pretending it's a fringe position, but maybe people expect smart people to be smart. Personally I don't think many of the billionaire Silicon Valley set were supporting him ideologically, more that they're cowardly, milquetoast lickspittles who care more about their bank balance than anything else.

krapp 1y ago

Trump "won the popular vote" with the support of less than 30% of the total population, and a little less than 50% of the population who voted. That isn't fringe (although what even is fringe anymore,) but neither is it mainstream.

ivewonyoung 1y ago
> Trump "won the popular vote" with the support of less than 30% of the total population What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? There's polling that shows the opposite, that his margins would increase if the turnout was higher.
- krapp 1y ago
  >What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? If you're talking about the popular vote, only the people who vote matter. I'm sure there are people who didn't vote for Trump but who support him. Certainly a lot of leftists and erstwhile Democrats stayed home or voted third party because they were disillusioned with Kamala Harris, which implicitly supports whatever the status quo winds up being. You can find polling that supports just about any narrative you like, but I don't think you can find much objective evidence that a significant majority of the American population supports Trump but most just didn't care enough to show up to the polls. Votes are the only objective data showing intent that we have, and they don't seem to indicate a sweeping mandate on Trump's behalf.
- reaperducer 1y ago
  What makes you think that all the people who didn't vote not support him for President? By definition, if they supported him, they would have voted for him. That's what voting is for.
  - ivewonyoung 1y ago
    By definition, if they opposed him, they would have voted against him. That's what voting is for.

lazide 1y ago

There are a lot of situations and policies which are clearly prone to ‘leopards eating faces’ type situations around Trump, and won’t look good when it comes around like it inevitably will. the awkward questions are going to be of the form ‘what the fuck did you think was going to happen’?