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... and get paid to do it while sidelining anyone with actual experience in the sector/topic. I called this when it started. They would come in, be totally ine

... and get paid to do it while sidelining anyone with actual experience in the sector/topic. I called this when it started. They would come in, be totally ineffective to the point of breaking things, and then we would get a "shucks, sorry" later.

rsynnott 1y ago
I just can't believe how totally incompetent this whole thing is. Even for a Musk/Trump venture, I didn't expect quite this level of just complete nonsense.
- nxobject 1y ago
  Imagine hiring a consultancy, and getting stuck with a team of people fresh out of college without any wisdom to guide them... I think that's what the American people got.
  - colejohnson66 1y ago
    Not just "fresh out of college", but people who think AI can solve everything. COBOL too "ancient"? Just throw AI at it! Can't write code? Throw AI at it! He literally wrote an AI prompter using AI: > Under a time crunch, Lavingia said he finished the first version of his contract-munching tool on his second day on the job — using AI to help write the code for him. He told ProPublica he then spent his first week downloading VA contracts to his laptop and analyzing them. This is entry/junior-level levels of incompetence being given carte blanche access to production, but where "production" includes people's livelihoods.
    - ivape 1y ago
      Did you see how two billionaires "leaders" feuded yesterday over disagreements (one was the President of the US and the other was the world's richest man)? They were the ones behind DOGE. That was the leadership behind it. We are in the fucking Twilight Zone. It's surreal. There was a epic book about the whole Iraq situation that had the most apt title: FIASCO Then there are these military terms: FUBAR - Fucked up beyond all recognition & TARFU - Totally and Royally fucked up & SNAFU - Situation Normal: All fucked up It's the people that have been to war that seem to have the words for what's going on, no one else.
    - mistrial9 1y ago
      except VA is a byzantine hellhole of self-serving dysfunction. Your outrage is only partially appropriate. Anyone around the system knows this, but has various incentives whether they will say it.
      - Loughla 1y ago
        Maybe there's a balance between not doing anything about the problems in the VA and ignorantly breaking in in 48 hours?
- eviks 1y ago
  Have you not followed the Twitter acquisition saga and the firing process that followed? It was the same thing
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    I remember the follow up. That Twitter was doomed and Threads, then Bluesky were absolutely going to crush it. Those were not only the popular takes here; but any claim otherwise was derided as harmful fiction. And still is.
    - eviks 1y ago
      But with such fiction for a memory would you even believe this whole thing is totally incompetent?
  - theGeatZhopa 1y ago
    thats the only reasonable way to do business. Its not a grocery store. if you don't get enough money, you need to cut your fixed costs. So he did. After buying, a selection of highly competent individuals knowing their systems decided on the (future) tech-stack and on that what is not needed and what can be done recoded/rebuild to save money on tech-stack even more. And then you just don't need that much work force anymore. rule no. 1 in business: If you pay, you decide. rule no.2 in business: If you pay more than you earn: close the company. key-insights: - it wasn't musk alone to decide. He had twitter's qualified employees and system architects -> pick the most skilled ones - it was a power meeting where the groups & members brainstormed excessively for longer then just 3 days in a row -> let them think about a better, simplified system design on a minimal viable tech-stack - they were accompanied by qualified stuff from tesla to uncover blind spots in the design and to bring fresh ideas / integration-knowledge / synergies & work-force -> check & start building. pivot if neccessary I really don't undersand, why arguments like yours are still & always brought up. Is it the lack of understanding how to do business? Is it pure "hate" & ad hominem @ musk, because it's musk? What is it that is strong enough to let one show absolute lack of either economical or technical thinking publicly? The -SANE- economical and technical mindset craves for Optimization of tech and fin. Thats the only differentiator to the competition: do it better, do it cheaper. So why was it bad exactly?
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itsdrewmiller 1y ago
He didn’t get paid.
- ipython 1y ago
  Azure OpenAI absolutely got paid.

rsynnott 1y ago

I just can't believe how totally incompetent this whole thing is. Even for a Musk/Trump venture, I didn't expect quite this level of just complete nonsense.

nxobject 1y ago
Imagine hiring a consultancy, and getting stuck with a team of people fresh out of college without any wisdom to guide them... I think that's what the American people got.
- colejohnson66 1y ago
  Not just "fresh out of college", but people who think AI can solve everything. COBOL too "ancient"? Just throw AI at it! Can't write code? Throw AI at it! He literally wrote an AI prompter using AI: > Under a time crunch, Lavingia said he finished the first version of his contract-munching tool on his second day on the job — using AI to help write the code for him. He told ProPublica he then spent his first week downloading VA contracts to his laptop and analyzing them. This is entry/junior-level levels of incompetence being given carte blanche access to production, but where "production" includes people's livelihoods.
  - ivape 1y ago
    Did you see how two billionaires "leaders" feuded yesterday over disagreements (one was the President of the US and the other was the world's richest man)? They were the ones behind DOGE. That was the leadership behind it. We are in the fucking Twilight Zone. It's surreal. There was a epic book about the whole Iraq situation that had the most apt title: FIASCO Then there are these military terms: FUBAR - Fucked up beyond all recognition & TARFU - Totally and Royally fucked up & SNAFU - Situation Normal: All fucked up It's the people that have been to war that seem to have the words for what's going on, no one else.
  - mistrial9 1y ago
    except VA is a byzantine hellhole of self-serving dysfunction. Your outrage is only partially appropriate. Anyone around the system knows this, but has various incentives whether they will say it.
    - Loughla 1y ago
      Maybe there's a balance between not doing anything about the problems in the VA and ignorantly breaking in in 48 hours?
eviks 1y ago
Have you not followed the Twitter acquisition saga and the firing process that followed? It was the same thing
- SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
  I remember the follow up. That Twitter was doomed and Threads, then Bluesky were absolutely going to crush it. Those were not only the popular takes here; but any claim otherwise was derided as harmful fiction. And still is.
  - eviks 1y ago
    But with such fiction for a memory would you even believe this whole thing is totally incompetent?
- theGeatZhopa 1y ago
  thats the only reasonable way to do business. Its not a grocery store. if you don't get enough money, you need to cut your fixed costs. So he did. After buying, a selection of highly competent individuals knowing their systems decided on the (future) tech-stack and on that what is not needed and what can be done recoded/rebuild to save money on tech-stack even more. And then you just don't need that much work force anymore. rule no. 1 in business: If you pay, you decide. rule no.2 in business: If you pay more than you earn: close the company. key-insights: - it wasn't musk alone to decide. He had twitter's qualified employees and system architects -> pick the most skilled ones - it was a power meeting where the groups & members brainstormed excessively for longer then just 3 days in a row -> let them think about a better, simplified system design on a minimal viable tech-stack - they were accompanied by qualified stuff from tesla to uncover blind spots in the design and to bring fresh ideas / integration-knowledge / synergies & work-force -> check & start building. pivot if neccessary I really don't undersand, why arguments like yours are still & always brought up. Is it the lack of understanding how to do business? Is it pure "hate" & ad hominem @ musk, because it's musk? What is it that is strong enough to let one show absolute lack of either economical or technical thinking publicly? The -SANE- economical and technical mindset craves for Optimization of tech and fin. Thats the only differentiator to the competition: do it better, do it cheaper. So why was it bad exactly?
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itsdrewmiller 1y ago

He didn’t get paid.

ipython 1y ago
Azure OpenAI absolutely got paid.