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Why Won't Some Musicians Take Me Seriously?

4 points by todsacerdoti 1y ago

esotericquant 1y ago
Musicians especially classical musicians are a different kind of snobby. As you climb higher on the skill ladder the amount of self absorbed pricks exponentially increases, it feels like they are always trying to 1 up you whenever they can to make themselves feel better. The only way to be taken seriously by those people is to simply be better
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  I think you've missed the point, and can I just say that every HN submission in 2025 does not need to be Yet Another Fuckin' Rumination on the state of LLMs and A.I. technology, especially not when they're waxing philosophical and pulling out parallel metaphors in order to clickbait us into reading their amateur hand-written tripe. It's the sheer exhaustion of beating the dead horse that makes me long for some sort of tagging or categories, enough that I can make a filter, to strain out a gnat of interesting Astronomy news or something.
  - JohnFen 1y ago
    Yeah, I was a little irritated at having been tricked into reading yet another of this sort of thing, too.
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potholereseller 1y ago
This seems spot on to me. It shows how some performers of popular music can be in an echo chamber. There are worlds beyond Rihanna, the Beatles, and Rascal Flats; there is more than I–V–vi–IV, 4/4, and verse-chorus; those other worlds have different barriers-to-entry than popular music. In 2021, Coldplay released an album with a genuine prog rock song on it [1]; it was inspired by Dark Side of the Moon [2]. I have come across a few other bands who have pulled off something similar. I always enjoy it when this happens, because it shows that some musicians have wings bigger than the popular music world allows them to spread. [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloratura_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloratura_(song)>, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWUV5-frRU4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWUV5-frRU4> [2] <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3PhWT10BW3Urh8ZXXpuU9h526ChwgWKy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3PhWT10BW3Urh8ZXXpuU...>
JohnFen 1y ago
I don't know about musicians, but I won't take you seriously because you're not a person. For me, the value of music (like all fine art) is that it is a form of human communication.
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  On The Internet, Nobody Knows You're An Embryo

4 points by todsacerdoti 1y ago

Musicians especially classical musicians are a different kind of snobby. As you climb higher on the skill ladder the amount of self absorbed pricks exponentially increases, it feels like they are always trying to 1 up you whenever they can to make themselves feel better. The only way to be taken seriously by those people is to simply be better

AStonesThrow 1y ago
I think you've missed the point, and can I just say that every HN submission in 2025 does not need to be Yet Another Fuckin' Rumination on the state of LLMs and A.I. technology, especially not when they're waxing philosophical and pulling out parallel metaphors in order to clickbait us into reading their amateur hand-written tripe. It's the sheer exhaustion of beating the dead horse that makes me long for some sort of tagging or categories, enough that I can make a filter, to strain out a gnat of interesting Astronomy news or something.
- JohnFen 1y ago
  Yeah, I was a little irritated at having been tricked into reading yet another of this sort of thing, too.

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potholereseller 1y ago

This seems spot on to me. It shows how some performers of popular music can be in an echo chamber. There are worlds beyond Rihanna, the Beatles, and Rascal Flats; there is more than I–V–vi–IV, 4/4, and verse-chorus; those other worlds have different barriers-to-entry than popular music. In 2021, Coldplay released an album with a genuine prog rock song on it [1]; it was inspired by Dark Side of the Moon [2]. I have come across a few other bands who have pulled off something similar. I always enjoy it when this happens, because it shows that some musicians have wings bigger than the popular music world allows them to spread. [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloratura_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloratura_(song)>, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWUV5-frRU4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWUV5-frRU4> [2] <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3PhWT10BW3Urh8ZXXpuU9h526ChwgWKy https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3PhWT10BW3Urh8ZXXpuU...>

JohnFen 1y ago

I don't know about musicians, but I won't take you seriously because you're not a person. For me, the value of music (like all fine art) is that it is a form of human communication.

AStonesThrow 1y ago
On The Internet, Nobody Knows You're An Embryo