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> There are no "shared values" that all humans agreed upon. Murder is bad? Stealing is bad?

• bdangubic 1y ago
  for me and you? sure! for all humans? nope
• DaSHacka 1y ago
  Think most murderers or thiefs would agree about those?
• diggan 1y ago
  > Murder is bad? Sure, lots of countries agree with this. But bunch of countries still have "death penalty", even one that is usually heralded as the "Savior of the West" still has judicial murders. Besides, if everyone agreed "murder is bad" we wouldn't have wars, so obviously not everyone agrees with that. > Stealing is bad? This I don't even agree with 100%, depends on the context. You're starving while someone else is hoarding food for themselves for no particular reason? Totally justifiable to steal food from them to survive. War argument kind of fits with this one too, clearly not everyone agrees stealing is bad.