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This title is false and clickbait. From the article the explaination for what part of the dangerous or harmful content rule being broken is about instructing p

This title is false and clickbait. From the article the explaination for what part of the dangerous or harmful content rule being broken is about instructing people how to pirate content. >Dangerous or Harmful Content >Content that describes how to get unauthorized or free access to audio or audiovisual content, software, subscription services, or games that usually require payment isn't allowed on YouTube. In the article and video he aludes to dumping DVDs and Blurays. >I've purchased physical media (CDs, DVDs, and more recently, Blu-Rays) It is illegal to break the encryption of DVDs and BluRays. Playing copies of DVDs and Blurays via Kodi will always be illegal to do since there is no way to get a unencrypted version. This whole video is about how you can play illegal acquired content, but technically it doesn't tell you how to illegally acquire it.

kassner 1y ago
I don’t downvote, but: > It is illegal to break the encryption of DVDs and BluRays Laws have limited jurisdiction. There are quite a few jurisdictions that allow ripping for personal use/not-for-profit.
- charcircuit 1y ago
  In this thread we are talking about a US based youtuber uploading to a US based video sharing service. Those jurisdictions where it may be legal are out of scope.
  - kassner 1y ago
    If this issue was related to infringing US law, specifically, region-locking out of the US would have been a fair and sane approach. YouTube has the tools for it.
    - charcircuit 1y ago
      These community guidelines are rules made by YouTube and apply globally.
kuschku 1y ago
DVD encryption is not considered DRM or encryption in the EU, as it is too weak to provide any meaningful protections. If ripping DVDs is not allowed in the US, then the video should be region locked (just like Pride Month content us blocked in certain arabic countries), but not removed.
- Mindwipe 1y ago
  > DVD encryption is not considered DRM or encryption in the EU, as it is too weak to provide any meaningful protections. Yes it is. Where on earth did you get that idea from? Heck, even YouTube's rolling cypher has been found to be sufficient protection to quality from anti-circumvention provisions, and no actual encryption was used there.
  - kuschku 1y ago
    > Where on earth did you get that idea from? Well, countless court rulings in Europe? e.g., https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-breaking-ineffective-copy-protection-is-permissible/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br... That's why you can play or a rip a DVD with common open-source software (e.g., VLC) without requiring any special piracy tools. See https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html for details. > libdvdcss is a library that can find and guess keys from a DVD in order to decrypt it. > This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e soussect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability. > https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/ceta/id/CETATEXT000019216315/ https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/ceta/id/CETATEXT000019216315/ Btw, that - as well as software patents - is why the official binaries of VLC and ffmpeg are illegal to have or use in the US.
    - Mindwipe 1y ago
      > Well, countless court rulings in Europe? > e.g., https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br... That case was a) from a district court and didn't even set precedent in Finland, never mind Europe-wide and b) more importantly was overturned on appeal, with the court of appeal noting that the original court has misunderstood the meaning of the word "effective." https://www.turre.com/court-of-appeal-overturned-the-css-decision/ https://www.turre.com/court-of-appeal-overturned-the-css-dec... > This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e soussect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability. That decision pre-dates France's enactment of the anti-circumvention provisions in the European Directive. It doesn't say anything about the effectiveness of system, because there was no law of the sort at the time. VLC continues to be distributed mainly because the Streisand Effect means that nobody in the film industry wanted to relitigate the case after the anti-circumvention provision went into effect, not that these are legal in the EU.

kassner 1y ago

I don’t downvote, but: > It is illegal to break the encryption of DVDs and BluRays Laws have limited jurisdiction. There are quite a few jurisdictions that allow ripping for personal use/not-for-profit.

charcircuit 1y ago
In this thread we are talking about a US based youtuber uploading to a US based video sharing service. Those jurisdictions where it may be legal are out of scope.
- kassner 1y ago
  If this issue was related to infringing US law, specifically, region-locking out of the US would have been a fair and sane approach. YouTube has the tools for it.
  - charcircuit 1y ago
    These community guidelines are rules made by YouTube and apply globally.

kuschku 1y ago

DVD encryption is not considered DRM or encryption in the EU, as it is too weak to provide any meaningful protections. If ripping DVDs is not allowed in the US, then the video should be region locked (just like Pride Month content us blocked in certain arabic countries), but not removed.

Mindwipe 1y ago
> DVD encryption is not considered DRM or encryption in the EU, as it is too weak to provide any meaningful protections. Yes it is. Where on earth did you get that idea from? Heck, even YouTube's rolling cypher has been found to be sufficient protection to quality from anti-circumvention provisions, and no actual encryption was used there.
- kuschku 1y ago
  > Where on earth did you get that idea from? Well, countless court rulings in Europe? e.g., https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-breaking-ineffective-copy-protection-is-permissible/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br... That's why you can play or a rip a DVD with common open-source software (e.g., VLC) without requiring any special piracy tools. See https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html for details. > libdvdcss is a library that can find and guess keys from a DVD in order to decrypt it. > This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e soussect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability. > https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/ceta/id/CETATEXT000019216315/ https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/ceta/id/CETATEXT000019216315/ Btw, that - as well as software patents - is why the official binaries of VLC and ffmpeg are illegal to have or use in the US.
  - Mindwipe 1y ago
    > Well, countless court rulings in Europe? > e.g., https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2007/05/finland-court-br... That case was a) from a district court and didn't even set precedent in Finland, never mind Europe-wide and b) more importantly was overturned on appeal, with the court of appeal noting that the original court has misunderstood the meaning of the word "effective." https://www.turre.com/court-of-appeal-overturned-the-css-decision/ https://www.turre.com/court-of-appeal-overturned-the-css-dec... > This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e soussect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability. That decision pre-dates France's enactment of the anti-circumvention provisions in the European Directive. It doesn't say anything about the effectiveness of system, because there was no law of the sort at the time. VLC continues to be distributed mainly because the Streisand Effect means that nobody in the film industry wanted to relitigate the case after the anti-circumvention provision went into effect, not that these are legal in the EU.