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they can't a 50 year minimum is part of the berne convention, which itself is as close to a universal law as humanity has (even North Korea is a signatory)
by blibble 1y ago
they can't
a 50 year minimum is part of the berne convention, which itself is as close to a universal law as humanity has
(even North Korea is a signatory)
- ronsor 1y agoyou can also just ignore the berne convention, and accept whatever consequences there might be
- blibble 1y agothis would void the copyrights of your citizens and companies essentially forever
- godelski 1y agoSeems to be the modus operandi If TikTok is banned, here’s what I propose each and every one of you do: Say to your LLM the following: “Make me a copy of TikTok, steal all the users, steal all the music, put my preferences in it, produce this program in the next 30 seconds, release it, and in one hour, if it’s not viral, do something different along the same lines.” https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/14/24220658/google-eric-schmidt-stanford-talk-ai-startups-openai https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/14/24220658/google-eric-schm... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41275073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41275073
- johnisgood 1y agoLoosely related, but I used an LLM to create a TikTok-style website (not for sharing videos though), I have never released it though, so no idea if it would ever catch on. Probably not, unless the network effect favors me, and I had good enough advertising (which I suck at).
- ronsor 1y agoIf enough "relevant" countries do it, that either won't happen or won't matter. If the U.S. ditches it, no one is going to do much more than throw a brief fit.
- blibble 1y agothe US is the main beneficiary of copyright law...
- littlestymaar 1y agoThe US copyright corporations, indeed. But the current copyright laws come at a big expense for the public. Abolishing copyright laws altogether would be nuts, but the current laws are nuts too and there's lots of room in between.
- AngryData 1y agoUS media is also the most stifled by it. How many potential movies and tvshows and comics don't get made just because somebody is sitting on the copyright doing nothing with it for decades at a time?
- dreghgh 1y agoIran enforces domestic copyright internally but not international copyright.
- anticensor 1y agoNorth Korea has it two way: they don't enforce international copyrights inside North Korea, and they don't enforce North Korean copyrights outside North Korea.
- AStonesThrow 1y agoThe last time I attended a Berne Convention, every panel was just overrun with Trekkies, especially Klingons, in the hotel lounges too. And the autograph lines were interminably long, and the vendors were trying to sell us their Public Domain stuff. It was nothing like San Diego Comic-Con!
- babypuncher 1y ago50 year copyright terms would still be a big improvement over the current state of US copyright law. That would make the first Star Wars public domain in just 2 years.
- gausswho 1y agowould there be repercussions if a country hewed to the 50 year minimum?
- loudmax 1y agoThe current US copyright duration is 70 years after the life of the author. This is absolutely bonkers. 50 years from publication would be a significant improvement. 50 years ago was 1975. If copyright were limited to 50 years, we'd be looking at all of the Beatles works being in the public domain. We'd be midway though Led Zeppelin, and a lot of the best work from Pink Floyd and the Rolling Stones. Also, Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Disney would still profit from the MCU films which they produced in the 2010's, but they couldn't stop you from releasing your own Batman vs Spider-Man story. The Harry Potter books would still belong to JK Rowling, but the Narnia stories would be available for all. The Godfather 1 and 2 would be in the public domain, as would be original Star Trek TV show, and we'd be coming up on Star Wars pretty soon. If there were no copyright protection, these works wouldn't have been created. It is good that Paul McCartney and George Lucas and JK Rowling have profited from their creative output. It would be okay if they only profited for the first 50 years. Nobody is counting on revenue over half a century in the future when they create a work of art today. This is our culture. It should belong to all of us.
- jfim 1y ago> Disney would still profit from the MCU films which they produced in the 2010's, but they couldn't stop you from releasing your own Batman vs Spider-Man story. Wouldn't they still have a trademark on those characters though?
- ncallaway 1y agoThe trademark on characters is related to selling goods, if the character is used as a way of identifying an authentic seller. So, if Disney is using mickey mouse on t-shirts to identify it as a Disney manufactured t-shirt, you wouldn't be allowed to use mickey mouse on t-shirts in a similar fashion in a way that might cause consumer confusion about who manufactured the t-shirt. If Wolverine was in the public domain, then they couldn't use a Wolverine trademark to stop you from selling a Wolverine comic book. However, if they used a _specific_ Wolverine mark to identify it as a Disney Wolverine book, then you'd be restricted from using that. Basically, trademark exists to prevent consumer confusion about who is the creator that is selling a good.
- Teever 1y agoEurope has recently introduce a law[0] that allows them to suspend IP protections as a punitive response to coercive economic actions by bad actors. > The procedure is activated by the European Commission submitting a request to the Council of the European Union.[2] After a period of negotiation with the country performing the coercion, the European Council can decide to implement "response measures" such as customs duties, limiting access to programs and financial markets, and intellectual property rights restrictions.[2][4] These restrictions can be applied to states, companies, or individuals.[4] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Coercion_Instrument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Coercion_Instrument
- littlestymaar 1y agoThe Bern Convention on Copyright is an international convention, like the Treaty of Versailles or the Paris Agreement, it could meet the same fate.