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People will do literally anything to get rich except earning more and spending less.

by bilsbie 1y ago

colordrops 1y ago
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- bawolff 1y ago
  > You can't just make money by just getting off your butt You kind of can, or at least i think you can to the same extent that you can lose weight by eating less and exercising more. There are complications that make it very non-trivial in both cases.
- t-writescode 1y ago
  You would do well to watch some of those weight loss shows like 1000 pound sisters, and see the *human* in them. It is way, way, *WAY* more than a “motivational hump”. Many of the very heavy are suffering from the effects of horrible, life long and weight-amplifyed-and-amplifying trauma.
- throw-qqqqq 1y ago
  Your take sounds a little black/white to me. Not everyone can “just not eat”. Some people are more driven by their hunger (perceived or “real”) than others. Some have an easy time sustaining a caloric deficit, for others it’s super hard. Genes and gut biota play a big part in this. It’s not always just a lack of discipline :) https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-become-overweight https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-be... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41367-019-0011-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41367-019-0011-7
CrimsonCape 1y ago
I used to think this was intelligence related, like less intelligent people were not able to understand how to maintain positive savings (spend only what is possible after contributing to savings). But with age I think rationalization is the more powerful force that outweighs intelligence. I notice that people who struggle with money usually have powerful convictions that are silly and capricious, but they are unable to see that. They build arguments upon rationalizations instead of facts or data. Spending money on rationalized things makes perfect sense in their mind. I think it's a three-circle venn diagram of knowledge - intelligence - rationalization. You can accrue a lot of knowledge via rote memorization, but it doesn't mean that you are intelligent. And you can have limited knowledge of a subject, but somehow "just get it" which comes with intelligence. And finally, you can have intelligence but utterly fail to see beyond rationalizations.
- kiba 1y ago
  You're talking about emotions. Rationalization is the end process of abusing your intelligence to serve your faulty emotions, rather than understanding and interacting with your emotions so that it serves you rather than the other way around.

People will do literally anything to get rich except earning more and spending less.

colordrops 1y ago

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bawolff 1y ago
> You can't just make money by just getting off your butt You kind of can, or at least i think you can to the same extent that you can lose weight by eating less and exercising more. There are complications that make it very non-trivial in both cases.
t-writescode 1y ago
You would do well to watch some of those weight loss shows like 1000 pound sisters, and see the *human* in them. It is way, way, *WAY* more than a “motivational hump”. Many of the very heavy are suffering from the effects of horrible, life long and weight-amplifyed-and-amplifying trauma.
throw-qqqqq 1y ago
Your take sounds a little black/white to me. Not everyone can “just not eat”. Some people are more driven by their hunger (perceived or “real”) than others. Some have an easy time sustaining a caloric deficit, for others it’s super hard. Genes and gut biota play a big part in this. It’s not always just a lack of discipline :) https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-become-overweight https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-people-be... https://www.nature.com/articles/s41367-019-0011-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41367-019-0011-7

CrimsonCape 1y ago

I used to think this was intelligence related, like less intelligent people were not able to understand how to maintain positive savings (spend only what is possible after contributing to savings). But with age I think rationalization is the more powerful force that outweighs intelligence. I notice that people who struggle with money usually have powerful convictions that are silly and capricious, but they are unable to see that. They build arguments upon rationalizations instead of facts or data. Spending money on rationalized things makes perfect sense in their mind. I think it's a three-circle venn diagram of knowledge - intelligence - rationalization. You can accrue a lot of knowledge via rote memorization, but it doesn't mean that you are intelligent. And you can have limited knowledge of a subject, but somehow "just get it" which comes with intelligence. And finally, you can have intelligence but utterly fail to see beyond rationalizations.

kiba 1y ago
You're talking about emotions. Rationalization is the end process of abusing your intelligence to serve your faulty emotions, rather than understanding and interacting with your emotions so that it serves you rather than the other way around.