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I’m surprised to see a DF article here. I thought he was black listed

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zdw 1y ago
Well, there's this: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/the_website_hacker_news_is_afraid_to_discuss https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/the_website_hacker_news_i... Not sure if it's a blacklist as much as people insta-flagging, as happens with a many of the political-adjacent posts.
- legacynl 1y ago
  that blog post isn't really convincing. > Occasionally I notice a burst of traffic to Daring Fireball from Hacker News. It’s always short-lived, because for reasons I’ve never seen explained, Daring Fireball articles always get blacklisted from Hacker News once they hit their front page It seems to me that he concludes that he's blacklisted because the traffic coming from Hacker News is short-lived? > Daring Fireball articles seemed more or less appropriately popular there. Articles that I would think would resonate with the HN readership would hit, and get what always seemed to me an appropriate number of comments. So this guy seems to think that he can predict what will be popular and what will not? I think he's burying the lede here, who cares about being blacklisted, this guy can tell the future ! Isn't it much more likely that his posts are just less popular, and drive less engagement than he hopes? Most people (even very smart people) are bad at meta-cognition, and are likely to fall in the trap of reasoning based on (hidden) assumptions. If this guy actually has evidence of being blacklisted/botted I would be open to see it, but lack of engament isn't that.
terhechte 1y ago
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- dogleash 1y ago
  Oh, pshaw. I can despise both at the same time, thank you very much. "People that dislike X must think Y" is reductive and divisive.
- criddell 1y ago
  He probably was blacklisted in some way and his recent complaints (which attracted a fair amount of attention here) probably led to dang et al reconsidering. I can’t imagine there are a lot of Stallman-types here. After all, HN is the discussion forum for Y Combinator, a startup accelerator and VC group.
  - shermantanktop 1y ago
    Cognitive dissonance is easy to overcome, if you want to.
pronoiac 1y ago
There's a flamewar detector, which triggers when there are far more comments than upvotes.
pvg 1y ago
There is a whole pile of dang comments about this brouhaha, he wasn't 'blacklisted', that's just something Gruber imagined because his articles don't do all that well on HN these days. People become less popular without HNs help.
ghushn3 1y ago
I think he thinks he's blocklisted. I imagine he's very much not, and it just happenstance/coincidence.

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zdw 1y ago

Well, there's this: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/the_website_hacker_news_is_afraid_to_discuss https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/the_website_hacker_news_i... Not sure if it's a blacklist as much as people insta-flagging, as happens with a many of the political-adjacent posts.

legacynl 1y ago
that blog post isn't really convincing. > Occasionally I notice a burst of traffic to Daring Fireball from Hacker News. It’s always short-lived, because for reasons I’ve never seen explained, Daring Fireball articles always get blacklisted from Hacker News once they hit their front page It seems to me that he concludes that he's blacklisted because the traffic coming from Hacker News is short-lived? > Daring Fireball articles seemed more or less appropriately popular there. Articles that I would think would resonate with the HN readership would hit, and get what always seemed to me an appropriate number of comments. So this guy seems to think that he can predict what will be popular and what will not? I think he's burying the lede here, who cares about being blacklisted, this guy can tell the future ! Isn't it much more likely that his posts are just less popular, and drive less engagement than he hopes? Most people (even very smart people) are bad at meta-cognition, and are likely to fall in the trap of reasoning based on (hidden) assumptions. If this guy actually has evidence of being blacklisted/botted I would be open to see it, but lack of engament isn't that.

terhechte 1y ago

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dogleash 1y ago
Oh, pshaw. I can despise both at the same time, thank you very much. "People that dislike X must think Y" is reductive and divisive.
criddell 1y ago
He probably was blacklisted in some way and his recent complaints (which attracted a fair amount of attention here) probably led to dang et al reconsidering. I can’t imagine there are a lot of Stallman-types here. After all, HN is the discussion forum for Y Combinator, a startup accelerator and VC group.
- shermantanktop 1y ago
  Cognitive dissonance is easy to overcome, if you want to.

pronoiac 1y ago

There's a flamewar detector, which triggers when there are far more comments than upvotes.

pvg 1y ago

There is a whole pile of dang comments about this brouhaha, he wasn't 'blacklisted', that's just something Gruber imagined because his articles don't do all that well on HN these days. People become less popular without HNs help.

ghushn3 1y ago

I think he thinks he's blocklisted. I imagine he's very much not, and it just happenstance/coincidence.