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Does this service has the same user count as 1.1.1.1? If not then why should this be relevant?

by i5heu 1y ago

gpvos 1y ago
Not yet obviously, they just started. 1.1.1.1 started with 0 users too.
bilekas 1y ago
I don't know the finer details of this project that's being launched, but if I'm setting up a global DNS server, I want to make sure it stays up all the time, it's kind of the point. It's not a project that "We will scale when we reach out limit". So I imagine there's a significant initial payment.
- i5heu 1y ago
  I never said that 1M EUR is too much. And yeh you are right, you want a global DNS server to be global. Nonetheless Cloudflare has more POPs of their DNS server as this project and a lot lot more traffic as this project just starts. So i think that the comparison is not useful at all. An better question is why they did not take more money and build an alternative to the root servers on top of it, or a super low cost registrar (for self cost like CF). I would absolutely love too see more from this project and less of bad comparisons that are knee jerk comparisons.
  - lloeki 1y ago
    The comparison I made was in response to: > Does it really take you a million Euros to set up a DNS server? The subtext of the above being that it "obviously" shouldn't cost 1M to slap BIND on a spare beige box in a closet. The subtext in mine was to put the scale context back in, not really comparing this project to Cloudflare who has more POP but also does a lot of other things (and so providing the DNS part for free is really a rounding error in their biz bottom line and they probably couldn't really tell how much it would actually cost). But then again the QA invites the comparison, they clearly position as challengers to 1.1.1.1/8.8.8.8/9.9.9.9 I didn't mean it to be knee jerk at all, sorry of it came across so.
raverbashing 1y ago
> Does this service has the same user count as (Google DNS)? If not then why should this be relevant? Service offered by an American company: cool and important Service offered by literally anyone else: "why is this relevant!?!?"
- i5heu 1y ago
  I did not write this? i think this project is cool. My point is that the cost of a well established DNS server that has POPs everywhere and maybe billions of users, is not comparable to a new project. Or in other words, i think the comparison is not useful.

Does this service has the same user count as 1.1.1.1? If not then why should this be relevant?

by i5heu 1y ago

Does this service has the same user count as 1.1.1.1? If not then why should this be relevant?

gpvos 1y ago

Not yet obviously, they just started. 1.1.1.1 started with 0 users too.

bilekas 1y ago

I don't know the finer details of this project that's being launched, but if I'm setting up a global DNS server, I want to make sure it stays up all the time, it's kind of the point. It's not a project that "We will scale when we reach out limit". So I imagine there's a significant initial payment.

i5heu 1y ago
I never said that 1M EUR is too much. And yeh you are right, you want a global DNS server to be global. Nonetheless Cloudflare has more POPs of their DNS server as this project and a lot lot more traffic as this project just starts. So i think that the comparison is not useful at all. An better question is why they did not take more money and build an alternative to the root servers on top of it, or a super low cost registrar (for self cost like CF). I would absolutely love too see more from this project and less of bad comparisons that are knee jerk comparisons.
- lloeki 1y ago
  The comparison I made was in response to: > Does it really take you a million Euros to set up a DNS server? The subtext of the above being that it "obviously" shouldn't cost 1M to slap BIND on a spare beige box in a closet. The subtext in mine was to put the scale context back in, not really comparing this project to Cloudflare who has more POP but also does a lot of other things (and so providing the DNS part for free is really a rounding error in their biz bottom line and they probably couldn't really tell how much it would actually cost). But then again the QA invites the comparison, they clearly position as challengers to 1.1.1.1/8.8.8.8/9.9.9.9 I didn't mean it to be knee jerk at all, sorry of it came across so.

raverbashing 1y ago

> Does this service has the same user count as (Google DNS)? If not then why should this be relevant? Service offered by an American company: cool and important Service offered by literally anyone else: "why is this relevant!?!?"

i5heu 1y ago
I did not write this? i think this project is cool. My point is that the cost of a well established DNS server that has POPs everywhere and maybe billions of users, is not comparable to a new project. Or in other words, i think the comparison is not useful.