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As someone who recently bought a Tesla, nothing comes close for the price to the Model Y in terms of range, performance, trunk space, and software. If you want
by Gareth321 1y ago
As someone who recently bought a Tesla, nothing comes close for the price to the Model Y in terms of range, performance, trunk space, and software. If you want an EV and value those things, the Model Y is the clear choice.
- wilg 1y ago[flagged]
- Gareth321 1y agoThat sounds like unbelievable hyperbole but I'm not interested in getting into a culture war fight today. It's going to be hard to find a brand which hasn't been associated with bad things before but I wish you luck :)
- jumpkick 1y agoDeleting USAID may have escaped “cultural war” containment and gone on to becoming something with real, material impact.
- wilg 1y agoRivian seems fine and makes the second best EVs. But also it’s not hyperbole, though I agree it sounds like it. Association comes in different strengths and forms. But currently owned and operated by a guy actively destroying my country is much more direct and urgent than most of these associations. But the larger point is that it seems correct that the only people willing to buy a Tesla anymore have conservative politics.
- mavhc 1y ago[flagged]
- delecti 1y agoI can be fairly confident in the emission results of other EVs.
- mavhc 1y agoBut there's no other mass market EV only company, so all the rest are complicit in Diesel-gate
- throwaway2037 1y ago> there's no other mass market EV only company BYD?
- mavhc 1y agoThey do make a lot of hybrids, but not mentioned in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_emissions_scandal So as long as you think China's production methods are morally fine, and don't mind them being in control of your car's software, pick BYD
- Corrado 1y agoI'm the same. I loved my 2020 Model Y when I bought it new and I love my 2020 Model X that I bought used. Both are the best cars I've ever owned. I know that everyone likes to complain about fit and finish but honestly I never noticed a single thing wrong with either of them. They are performant, silent, efficient, and the MX doors make my grandkids giggle (that's worth quite a bit :). I keep looking for the next EV to buy but every one that I test drive seems lacking, mostly in the software area. Tesla has the software nailed and nobody else can seem to figure it out. I recently drove a Rivian R1S and really liked it, but the software was not great (for a $100K car) and it really disappointing me. I really feel like Tesla does great work but their leader needs to go. He's smeared the name so badly that I fear it might never recover.
- wilg 1y agoYeah I’m hoping the R2 is an option but FSD has become very critical. I don’t see how Tesla could even dissociate with him, he owns the board and would have to divest also. I think the only path back is if people forget, conservatives suddenly like EVs, or they strike gold with the robots or something.
- morwanger 1y ago[dead]
- panick21_ 1y ago[flagged]
- wilg 1y agoYes I think Musk is personally responsible for the cuts he did as part of the thing he loudly and proudly claimed to be in charge of, enabled by the president he claims to have gotten elected. I’m not sure why you’re so easy to write off 1000s of deaths, but 300,000 so far is one model, but even if it’s very wrong it’s going to be hundreds of thousands sometime this year in all likelihood. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid-cuts-deaths-fact-checker/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/05/28/rubio-aid...
- MagicMoonlight 1y agoIoniq 5 Teslas don’t even have a Speedo, let alone a HUD. It’s just an iPad with proprietary software which can’t sync with your phone. Terrible
- seb1204 1y agoWhat do you want to sync? I was able to use my phone book contacts and addresses. Use my phone's WiFi for data and play music or videos from any app on my phone. I was able to send destination POI to the car GPS to navigate there. Ticked all my boxes. Bidirectional charging would be great, everything else is already far up there.
- Gareth321 1y agoI'll compare the top spec Ioniq 5 N line with the Model Y AWD Long Range as they're priced the same here in Denmark. The Ioniq has 520 liters of trunk space vs 854 in the Model Y. The Ioniq has 495km of range vs the Y's 586. Software isn't even close - I have tried both. The Tesla wins hands down on software. The only metric the Ioniq wins on is acceleration. Specifically when using special boost mode from stopped. It can do 0-100 in 3.4s vs the Y's 4.8s, which is fast. For me this is a clear win for Tesla. Anything under 5s is crazy fast to me anyway, so the other things I mention are worth a lot more.
- hgomersall 1y agoThe top spec actually has a smaller boot and a lower range due to using dual motors. If you care about such things, good news because you can pay less money, surrendering acceleration which you don't care about. Subjectively, the boot of the Ioniq 5 on the normal models is huge, and I say that as someone for whom boot size was the primary requirement. Moving the seats forward creates epic amounts of space at the cost of reduced leg room for rear passengers.
- Gareth321 1y agoAccording to their website the RWD long range (84kw battery) has the same 520L trunk space, 570km range, and only 7.5s 0-100. It’s cheaper but it’s a big downgrade on performance, trunk space, and software.
- randomcarbloke 1y agoBoot-space is literally all it has going for it, you can equal or surpass the other categories for less here in Europe, and if you buy used since used EV's are dirt cheap you could get something significantly better with far better badge-appeal for about the same price.
- Gareth321 1y agoI have a family and a wife who doesn't pack light so it's a pretty important one for us. There are options if I'm willing to drop some of those things, but the Y gives me all of it for a reasonable price. Do you mean I could get something significantly better if I choose not to get the things which are important to me? Because that would be worse for me, not better. I have never cared about the badge. Out of interest, if I reduced the trunk space a little, which similarly priced EVs could you recommend with more range and better performance than the Model Y AWD Long Range?
- randomcarbloke 1y agoif range and space make all the difference it rather begs the question...why buy a disposable plastic toy when a real car would be better suited?
- Gareth321 1y agoI like the performance of an EV. The acceleration and instant torque is incredible. Plus we’re spending a lot less on gas/power now.
- tpxl 1y agoWhat gets at least equal mileage and is also not tiny? A friend is looking to buy and EV, and his problem specifically is nothing comes close to Teslas range.
- vel0city 1y agoNothing comes close to Tesla's published range because the numbers they post on their marketing aren't real. They're by far more inflated than any other automaker.