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Is this like how Full Self Driving is always 12 months away? All the shortcomings of the Tesla you know and hate were solved in the latest model!

NoPicklez 1y ago
It’s nothing like that. There have been comments around the ride harshness of the model 3. In the latest model it has been specifically fixed. I think any self driving tech at the moment is just terrible and shouldn’t be used, for the record
- hkpack 1y ago
  Should all the current owners are expected to be happy for the new version they did’t own?
  - Toutouxc 1y ago
    No, but prospective buyers don't need to worry about ride harshness anymore.
    - hkpack 1y ago
      Supposedly. As far as I understand, whether it was fixed or not will be decided by a completely separate group of people. At some point, Tesla can just lie, and don't expect people will be able to verify. I think Elon found a glitch it tech-bro reasoning: you promise a product, people believe you and buy it, then they realise that it is not what was advertised, but it is OK, because new version has it now, so you can't complain, it is your fault in the eyes of your peers, you should have made a better research or whatever. Your FSD has almost got you killed? Don't worry, this is your fault, and anyway the bug was already fixed in the update. Probably. This time for sure.
      - NoPicklez 1y ago
        Sorry but its clear you aren't thinking logically. The changes in the new 2024 version, specifically changed the suspension setup and you can mechanically verify the difference between the models because there were mechanical changes. You need to drop the FSD rhetoric, there are an enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD, but simply enjoying the car as an EV.
        hkpack 1y ago
        You are thinking logically only if you are a shareholder. Then it makes absolute sense to think like that to stay hopeful. From the consumer POV who doesn't own shares in the brand, it makes no sense at all. > enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD but simply enjoying the car as an EV Are there an enormous amount of disappointed Tesla drivers as well who stuck with it because of a sunk cost fallacy? Should, for example, CyberTruck owners who spend 150K on a bullet-proof car be happy that in the new 2026 version the panels finally will stop falling off? Should the few million people who purchased Tesla Model 3 feel better that the new version finally drives like a car?
        NoPicklez 1y ago
        All cars have pain points and whilst people in an existing Model 3 might be annoyed ride quality has been improved in the new model, it is good that the specific pain point has been addressed. Afterall you wouldn't stop improving your car simply because you didn't want to annoy existing customers. Either way, in prior comments you couldn't come to terms with them possibly fixing something like that in the first place.
    - samrus 1y ago
      And what will the prospective buyers need to worry about that the next next version will solve? Tesla is a low-trust company. Too much grifting
  - _ea1k 1y ago
    No, but they should test drive the car before they buy it and decide if it is acceptable, just like everyone does when they buy a car.
  - c0brac0bra 1y ago
    If you bought a first gen android should you be mad that you didn't buy a second gen android? Is this the new "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?"?
  - panick21_ 1y ago
    You should relax a bit. Model 3 ride was a bit 'sporty' compared to others. Some people like that, other prefer it softer. There really isn't a clear 'right' and 'wrong' here. But on avg. people seem to prefer it a bit softer, so they adjusted it slightly. Successive version always do slight changes like that over time, that how car companies work. Old owners don't need to be happy about it, or think about it at all.
Gareth321 1y ago
No it's pretty good now. This isn't a software update. It's either softer or it's not. Of course it is subjective. There are plenty of cars with even softer rides, but they tend to feel a lot more floaty, especially in corners, and I personally don't like that.

NoPicklez 1y ago

It’s nothing like that. There have been comments around the ride harshness of the model 3. In the latest model it has been specifically fixed. I think any self driving tech at the moment is just terrible and shouldn’t be used, for the record

hkpack 1y ago
Should all the current owners are expected to be happy for the new version they did’t own?
- Toutouxc 1y ago
  No, but prospective buyers don't need to worry about ride harshness anymore.
  - hkpack 1y ago
    Supposedly. As far as I understand, whether it was fixed or not will be decided by a completely separate group of people. At some point, Tesla can just lie, and don't expect people will be able to verify. I think Elon found a glitch it tech-bro reasoning: you promise a product, people believe you and buy it, then they realise that it is not what was advertised, but it is OK, because new version has it now, so you can't complain, it is your fault in the eyes of your peers, you should have made a better research or whatever. Your FSD has almost got you killed? Don't worry, this is your fault, and anyway the bug was already fixed in the update. Probably. This time for sure.
    - NoPicklez 1y ago
      Sorry but its clear you aren't thinking logically. The changes in the new 2024 version, specifically changed the suspension setup and you can mechanically verify the difference between the models because there were mechanical changes. You need to drop the FSD rhetoric, there are an enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD, but simply enjoying the car as an EV.
      - hkpack 1y ago
        You are thinking logically only if you are a shareholder. Then it makes absolute sense to think like that to stay hopeful. From the consumer POV who doesn't own shares in the brand, it makes no sense at all. > enormous amount of Tesla drivers who couldn't care about FSD but simply enjoying the car as an EV Are there an enormous amount of disappointed Tesla drivers as well who stuck with it because of a sunk cost fallacy? Should, for example, CyberTruck owners who spend 150K on a bullet-proof car be happy that in the new 2026 version the panels finally will stop falling off? Should the few million people who purchased Tesla Model 3 feel better that the new version finally drives like a car?
        NoPicklez 1y ago
        All cars have pain points and whilst people in an existing Model 3 might be annoyed ride quality has been improved in the new model, it is good that the specific pain point has been addressed. Afterall you wouldn't stop improving your car simply because you didn't want to annoy existing customers. Either way, in prior comments you couldn't come to terms with them possibly fixing something like that in the first place.
  - samrus 1y ago
    And what will the prospective buyers need to worry about that the next next version will solve? Tesla is a low-trust company. Too much grifting
- _ea1k 1y ago
  No, but they should test drive the car before they buy it and decide if it is acceptable, just like everyone does when they buy a car.
- c0brac0bra 1y ago
  If you bought a first gen android should you be mad that you didn't buy a second gen android? Is this the new "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?"?
- panick21_ 1y ago
  You should relax a bit. Model 3 ride was a bit 'sporty' compared to others. Some people like that, other prefer it softer. There really isn't a clear 'right' and 'wrong' here. But on avg. people seem to prefer it a bit softer, so they adjusted it slightly. Successive version always do slight changes like that over time, that how car companies work. Old owners don't need to be happy about it, or think about it at all.

Gareth321 1y ago

No it's pretty good now. This isn't a software update. It's either softer or it's not. Of course it is subjective. There are plenty of cars with even softer rides, but they tend to feel a lot more floaty, especially in corners, and I personally don't like that.