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> Since when the ability to write proper and meaningful sentences became engineering? Since what's proper and meaningful depends on a lot of variables. Testing

> Since when the ability to write proper and meaningful sentences became engineering? Since what's proper and meaningful depends on a lot of variables. Testing these, keeping track of them, logging and versioning take it from "vibe prompting" to "prompt engineering" IMO. There are plenty of papers detailing this work. Some things work better than others (do this and this works better than don't do this - pink elephants thing). Structuring is important. Style is important. Order of information is important. Re-stating the problem is important. Then there's quirks with family models. If you're running an API-served model you need internal checks to make sure the new version still behaves well on your prompts. These checks and tests are "prompt engineering". I feel a lot of people take the knee-jerk reaction to the hype and miss critical aspects because they want to dunk on the hype.

gwervc 1y ago
It's still very very far from engineering. Like, how long and how much one has to study to get an engineering degree? 5 years over many disciplines. On the other hand, prompt tweaking can be learned in a few days just by experimenting.
- NitpickLawyer 1y ago
  >the branch of science and technology concerned with the design, building, and use of engines, machines, and structures. Not this one. > (alt) a field of study or activity concerned with modification or development in a particular area. "software engineering" This one ^^^ Too many people seem really triggered by this. I don't know why, but it's weird. It's just a term. It's well understood by now. The first 5 pages on google all state the same thing. Why bicker about something so trivial?
apwell23 1y ago
> Some things work better than others That could be said about ordering coffee at local coffee shop. Is there a "barista order engineering" we are all supposed to read? > Re-stating the problem is important. maybe you can show us some examples ?

gwervc 1y ago

It's still very very far from engineering. Like, how long and how much one has to study to get an engineering degree? 5 years over many disciplines. On the other hand, prompt tweaking can be learned in a few days just by experimenting.

NitpickLawyer 1y ago
>the branch of science and technology concerned with the design, building, and use of engines, machines, and structures. Not this one. > (alt) a field of study or activity concerned with modification or development in a particular area. "software engineering" This one ^^^ Too many people seem really triggered by this. I don't know why, but it's weird. It's just a term. It's well understood by now. The first 5 pages on google all state the same thing. Why bicker about something so trivial?

apwell23 1y ago

> Some things work better than others That could be said about ordering coffee at local coffee shop. Is there a "barista order engineering" we are all supposed to read? > Re-stating the problem is important. maybe you can show us some examples ?