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> So many companies like Microsoft, Meta, Salesforce and Google (who are actively using AI just did layoffs) are some how not 'competent companies' because they

by mjr00 1y ago

> So many companies like Microsoft, Meta, Salesforce and Google (who are actively using AI just did layoffs) are some how not 'competent companies' because they believe with AI they can do more with less engineers and employees? Is there any evidence the layoffs are actually due to AI, or due to a hiring correction using AI as an excuse?

rvz 1y ago
We both already know it's very obvious that the layoffs are due to them getting away with actually doing more with less using AI. Evidently: 1. After the layoffs that happned at Meta, it is reported that they are building (and using) AI coding agents to become even more efficient, same with Google. [0] 2. Duolingo went all in and replaced their contract workers with AI. [1] 3. Microsoft CEO says "up to 30% of the company’s code was written by AI" [0] then laid off 3% of workers (6K employees), including engineers. [2] 4. Business Insider went "AI first" with 70% of employees using ChatGPT and then lays off 21% of their workers. [4] 5. After Salesforce laid off 1,000 their workers in Feburary 2025, they now said that "the use of artificial intelligence tools internally has allowed it to hire fewer workers" and additionally said: "We view these as assistants, but they are going to allow us to have to hire less and hopefully make our existing folks more productive." [5] The list goes on and on in 2025 alone and this further strengthens my whole point that companies will be doing more with less knowledge workers and these workers still have a lot more to lose, rather than gain if they don't use AI. [0] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over-coding-at-microsoft-google-and-meta/490896 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over... [1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/duolingo-will-replace-contract-workers-with-ai-ceo-says/490812 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/duolingo-will-rep... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2025/05/13/microsoft-lays-off-about-3-of-workers-as-company-adjusts-for-ai-business/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2025/05/13/micros... [3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/11/01/ai-code-and-the-future-of-software-engineers/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/11/01/ai-code-an... [4] https://www.businessinsider.com/a-note-from-business-insiders-ceo https://www.businessinsider.com/a-note-from-business-insider... [5] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/salesforce-says-ai-reduced-hiring-223412133.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/salesforce-says-ai-reduced-hi...
- mjr00 1y ago
  You're falling for marketing pieces, there's been multiple discussions on HN from people working at these companies calling out that all of this as bullshit. Nobody's been replaced by AI. I appreciate you citing sources, but all of those quotes are from CEOs pumping their stock prices with lies--which, at the moment, is the best known use of AI.

by mjr00 1y ago

rvz 1y ago

We both already know it's very obvious that the layoffs are due to them getting away with actually doing more with less using AI. Evidently: 1. After the layoffs that happned at Meta, it is reported that they are building (and using) AI coding agents to become even more efficient, same with Google. [0] 2. Duolingo went all in and replaced their contract workers with AI. [1] 3. Microsoft CEO says "up to 30% of the company’s code was written by AI" [0] then laid off 3% of workers (6K employees), including engineers. [2] 4. Business Insider went "AI first" with 70% of employees using ChatGPT and then lays off 21% of their workers. [4] 5. After Salesforce laid off 1,000 their workers in Feburary 2025, they now said that "the use of artificial intelligence tools internally has allowed it to hire fewer workers" and additionally said: "We view these as assistants, but they are going to allow us to have to hire less and hopefully make our existing folks more productive." [5] The list goes on and on in 2025 alone and this further strengthens my whole point that companies will be doing more with less knowledge workers and these workers still have a lot more to lose, rather than gain if they don't use AI. [0] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over-coding-at-microsoft-google-and-meta/490896 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/ai-is-taking-over... [1] https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/duolingo-will-replace-contract-workers-with-ai-ceo-says/490812 https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/duolingo-will-rep... [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2025/05/13/microsoft-lays-off-about-3-of-workers-as-company-adjusts-for-ai-business/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2025/05/13/micros... [3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/11/01/ai-code-and-the-future-of-software-engineers/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/11/01/ai-code-an... [4] https://www.businessinsider.com/a-note-from-business-insiders-ceo https://www.businessinsider.com/a-note-from-business-insider... [5] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/salesforce-says-ai-reduced-hiring-223412133.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/salesforce-says-ai-reduced-hi...

mjr00 1y ago
You're falling for marketing pieces, there's been multiple discussions on HN from people working at these companies calling out that all of this as bullshit. Nobody's been replaced by AI. I appreciate you citing sources, but all of those quotes are from CEOs pumping their stock prices with lies--which, at the moment, is the best known use of AI.