> There are always ways. Hmm... > But I asked what is that external provider actually receiving. Sure, I don't know. What I'm saying is that at least it seem

> There are always ways. Hmm... > But I asked what is that external provider actually receiving. Sure, I don't know. What I'm saying is that at least it seems possible to make is reasonably private. That's better than if it was impossible, e.g. putting a backdoor in E2EE "only for the good guys". But then I would be contradicting your statement that "there are always ways", so... well.