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Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not
by spaceman_2020 1y ago
Some of this stuff is getting to the point where we will seriously need to have a global talk on whether we should put a pin in this tech or not
- jandrese 1y agoAs if the billionaires won't simply go "F that noise, more money for me!!!" Ethical concerns are way down the priority list for most AI focused companies.
- jolt42 1y agowhy? if nuclear weapons got the green light, do you expect a different outcome?
- AlienRobot 1y agoBecause nuclear weapons got the green light.
- spaceman_2020 1y agoWeapon that threatens everyone is better than weapon that threatens only some
- switchbak 1y agoI'm sure that everyone would agree on that, and that $bad_actor wouldn't take advantage of the fact that everyone else had agreed to lay down their arms. Game theory sucks, but it's hard to get around.
- tonyarkles 1y agoThe child comments from yours are mentioning nuclear weapons as a parallel but there's one big difference between drone tech and nuclear weapons: plutonium is really hard to make. We might be able to put a pin in this tech from a policy perspective, but the cat is way out of the bag as far as the tech goes. A cell phone already has all of the sensors you need baked right into it (honestly, we can thank mobile devices for getting the cost down). An ESC for a motor is a cheap microcontroller and a couple of MOSFETs. The frames can be made of cheap plastic. Even if things like ArduPilot didn't exist, a smart EE student could build one from scratch, including the flight control software, using parts from Digikey and relatively basic PID control code. The cat is definitely out of the bag.
- bamboozled 1y agoA lunatic will be able to wipe out school children playing outside and have little chance of getting caught, for example. Nice.
- bravoetch 1y agoYes, and so far it's much easier to drive a van into a crowd of people. Nobody has tried to mandate tech in cars that detects and prevents such malicious behavior.
- bamboozled 1y agoCan you drive a van into a group of people without even being physically present though ?
- TacticalCoder 1y ago> Can you drive a van into a group of people without even being physically present though ? It's probably totally doable by now. We literally have self-driving cars.
- tonyarkles 1y agoYes. https://www.psu.edu/news/campus-life/story/hackers-who-remotely-hijacked-jeep-speak-about-cybersecurity-threats https://www.psu.edu/news/campus-life/story/hackers-who-remot... Even without vulnerabilities like that, something like https://comma.ai/openpilot https://comma.ai/openpilot could very likely be used in the same way ArduPilot was used in the recent Ukrainian drone attacks.
- lazide 1y agoeasier than a drone, technically. using the same tools and techniques too. a van is just a bigger, more inherently stable drone.
- eternauta3k 1y agoThe RAF guys tried this back in 1967 to attack the Iranian Shah...
- trhway 1y agoThere wouldn't be any pin in it. Drones - automated weapons in the wide sense - will be the new MAD/equalizer weapon accessible to smaller countries who have no chances of getting into the nuclear club. Without such a weapon in the coming new world order - marked specifically by the USA's withdrawal from enforcing international law - they will be an easy prey to the bigger countries. Ukraine is just a preview of that equalizing power.
- aorloff 1y agoI guess it falls on me to break it to you then but serious "global talks" happen at the exploding end of ordinance. There is no Jedi Council to appeal to, no wise group of non-aggressive nations gathering to pacify the troublemakers.