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The society of Snow Crash is a dystopia, not something we should want to implement.

roughly 1y ago
The biggest mistake the Cyberpunk authors made was making their dystopia look so cool and then assuming we’d actually read the book.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538 https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538 > Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale > Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
  - roughly 1y ago
    I wish this weren't so evergreen. Truly this is the Era of the Torment Nexus.
- 7373737373 1y ago
  The world needs more https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberprep https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberprep
  - roughly 1y ago
    I'm personally a fan of https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Solarpunk https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Solarpunk
lokimedes 1y ago
There’s an epic battle raging between Gibson’s Cyberpunks and Clarke’s Spacefarers. The former seems to be winning.
MomsAVoxell 1y ago
Especially that whole ‘listening to reason’ thing .. Well. I dunno, actually. In some ways, I do want The Feed. But in other ways, I definitely don’t want Drummers. Okay, some aspects of Drummers.
- jobs_throwaway 1y ago
  The Feed would be cool, the Primer would be fantastic, and a lot of the voluntary societies would be awesome. Diamond age is the most compelling vision for the future of recent popular sci-fi that I've found
  - tannschnauzer 1y ago
    The Diamond Age is yet another terrible future that many readers take as awesome, for reasons I can never figure out. The Primer that everyone likes is mostly just a human remote-teaching—certainly, the best parts of its outcomes are from that. One specific person caring very much and dedicating lots of time and focus to teaching this kid. Meanwhile, the mass-production Primer without that aspect is just a brainwashing device.
A_D_E_P_T 1y ago
It's more The Diamond Age than Snow Crash. The "Patchwork" of Yarvin and Land maps pretty neatly to Stephenson's Clades -- micronations as voluntary societies.
- jobs_throwaway 1y ago
  TBH Diamond Age seems pretty cool, other than the Fists I think/hope we will see something similar to voluntary societies in the future. Nation states are too heterogenous to row in the same direction. Stronger ethics are needed
  - wat10000 1y ago
    Locked-down technology, courts where you don't get to present a defense and executions are carried out immediately without even telling the person, widespread illiteracy, violent revolution, masses of child soldiers.... Definitely "cool to read about" rather than "cool to live in."

The biggest mistake the Cyberpunk authors made was making their dystopia look so cool and then assuming we’d actually read the book.

ceejayoz 1y ago
https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538 https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538 > Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale > Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
- roughly 1y ago
  I wish this weren't so evergreen. Truly this is the Era of the Torment Nexus.
7373737373 1y ago
The world needs more https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberprep https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Cyberprep
- roughly 1y ago
  I'm personally a fan of https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Solarpunk https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Solarpunk

lokimedes 1y ago

There’s an epic battle raging between Gibson’s Cyberpunks and Clarke’s Spacefarers. The former seems to be winning.

MomsAVoxell 1y ago

Especially that whole ‘listening to reason’ thing .. Well. I dunno, actually. In some ways, I do want The Feed. But in other ways, I definitely don’t want Drummers. Okay, some aspects of Drummers.

jobs_throwaway 1y ago
The Feed would be cool, the Primer would be fantastic, and a lot of the voluntary societies would be awesome. Diamond age is the most compelling vision for the future of recent popular sci-fi that I've found
- tannschnauzer 1y ago
  The Diamond Age is yet another terrible future that many readers take as awesome, for reasons I can never figure out. The Primer that everyone likes is mostly just a human remote-teaching—certainly, the best parts of its outcomes are from that. One specific person caring very much and dedicating lots of time and focus to teaching this kid. Meanwhile, the mass-production Primer without that aspect is just a brainwashing device.

A_D_E_P_T 1y ago

It's more The Diamond Age than Snow Crash. The "Patchwork" of Yarvin and Land maps pretty neatly to Stephenson's Clades -- micronations as voluntary societies.

jobs_throwaway 1y ago
TBH Diamond Age seems pretty cool, other than the Fists I think/hope we will see something similar to voluntary societies in the future. Nation states are too heterogenous to row in the same direction. Stronger ethics are needed
- wat10000 1y ago
  Locked-down technology, courts where you don't get to present a defense and executions are carried out immediately without even telling the person, widespread illiteracy, violent revolution, masses of child soldiers.... Definitely "cool to read about" rather than "cool to live in."