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> Sure they did, or at least the ones who survived did. Offshoring went from the thing that was going to kill the US Software Engineering industry to a fairly m

> Sure they did, or at least the ones who survived did. Offshoring went from the thing that was going to kill the US Software Engineering industry to a fairly minor portion of it with US based engineers being even more in demand than they were before Huh? Offshoring is a fairly major component of my employer's workforce, and the US software engineering staff has dwindled (along with a lot of other departments). We moved into a much smaller building recently. Now we work on godawful blended teams with the worse time-zone difference possible (initially projects we either all India or all US, until the power that be felt the need to push costs down further). It's the same at my friend's employers, if they're of any size.

reaperducer 1y ago
Offshoring is a fairly major component of my employer's workforce Your employer is not the only employer.
- palmotea 1y ago
  I never said it was, but I'm not the only person I know in this situation, and the people in India I work have worked for other major Western companies. I also don't work at someplace like bank, where technology is seen as pure cost, but someplace where the main products are mostly software so its a strategic investment. It just think it's pretty unbelievable that offshoring is a "a fairly minor portion" of the "US Software Engineering industry." It didn't totally kill it, like some overly pessimistic (or enthusiastic, depending on their perspective) people may have predicted, but it would take a lot of evidence to convince me it's not a major part of it.
- bdangubic 1y ago
  you should look up numbers for this before posting :)
const_cast 1y ago
1. Please don't say "Huh?", you know what the person is talking about. You don't need to feign that their argument is so stupid it befuddles you. 2. Off-shoring didn't go away, sure, but it's pretty costly because you have to constantly translate culture differences, time differences, etc. Also reading code is harder than writing it, so just dumping more people to write code doesn't help much.

reaperducer 1y ago

Offshoring is a fairly major component of my employer's workforce Your employer is not the only employer.

palmotea 1y ago
I never said it was, but I'm not the only person I know in this situation, and the people in India I work have worked for other major Western companies. I also don't work at someplace like bank, where technology is seen as pure cost, but someplace where the main products are mostly software so its a strategic investment. It just think it's pretty unbelievable that offshoring is a "a fairly minor portion" of the "US Software Engineering industry." It didn't totally kill it, like some overly pessimistic (or enthusiastic, depending on their perspective) people may have predicted, but it would take a lot of evidence to convince me it's not a major part of it.
bdangubic 1y ago
you should look up numbers for this before posting :)

const_cast 1y ago

1. Please don't say "Huh?", you know what the person is talking about. You don't need to feign that their argument is so stupid it befuddles you. 2. Off-shoring didn't go away, sure, but it's pretty costly because you have to constantly translate culture differences, time differences, etc. Also reading code is harder than writing it, so just dumping more people to write code doesn't help much.