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Musk already has a LONG history of undelivered promises. Full-self-driving has been "coming next year" for a decade. Now, he seems to be spending his days on

Musk already has a LONG history of undelivered promises. Full-self-driving has been "coming next year" for a decade. Now, he seems to be spending his days on ketamine fueled posting binges and fist fights in the white house instead of running Tesla and SpaceX. If I was a tesla investor I would want out immediately.

disillusioned 1y ago
The Robotaxi "trial" in Austin has a chance to be supremely embarrassing and potentially ruinous, depending on just how weird it gets. Waymos get stuck doing weird stuff sometimes, which makes the news, but broadly speaking, they've completed 10 million paid, driverless rides, and their accident/injury rate is provably lower than human drivers, and there have been, to my recollection, essentially no catastrophic Waymo-faulted pedestrian interactions (ala the original Uber issues). Owing to the difference in sensor suite, I'm curious if Tesla FSD will be able to truly keep that same margin of safety, but I'm not super confident, and having to pause or rollback the trial would be a big hit in the underlying "value" of TSLA, I reckon.
lynx97 1y ago
In other words, cars will be full-self-driving when Linux hits the desktop.
- AndrewDucker 1y ago
  Waymo have had self-driving taxis for years now.
  - rtkwe 1y ago
    Yes but they have LIDAR which Musk has steadfastly refused to have in Teslas (probably becasue if it does turn out to be required he's in deep shit for all the cars he's sold so far without it they could be forced to upgrade).
  - lynx97 1y ago
    Well, friends of mine use Linux as a desktop since more then 10 years now. So my point is pretty much confirmed. I'll believe the self-driving taxi hype when I am every able to drive own to my place of brith. I am pretty confident that is not going to happen before I die.

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Musk already has a LONG history of undelivered promises. Full-self-driving has been "coming next year" for a decade. Now, he seems to be spending his days on

by solid_fuel 1y ago

disillusioned 1y ago
The Robotaxi "trial" in Austin has a chance to be supremely embarrassing and potentially ruinous, depending on just how weird it gets. Waymos get stuck doing weird stuff sometimes, which makes the news, but broadly speaking, they've completed 10 million paid, driverless rides, and their accident/injury rate is provably lower than human drivers, and there have been, to my recollection, essentially no catastrophic Waymo-faulted pedestrian interactions (ala the original Uber issues). Owing to the difference in sensor suite, I'm curious if Tesla FSD will be able to truly keep that same margin of safety, but I'm not super confident, and having to pause or rollback the trial would be a big hit in the underlying "value" of TSLA, I reckon.
lynx97 1y ago
In other words, cars will be full-self-driving when Linux hits the desktop.
- AndrewDucker 1y ago
  Waymo have had self-driving taxis for years now.
  - rtkwe 1y ago
    Yes but they have LIDAR which Musk has steadfastly refused to have in Teslas (probably becasue if it does turn out to be required he's in deep shit for all the cars he's sold so far without it they could be forced to upgrade).
  - lynx97 1y ago
    Well, friends of mine use Linux as a desktop since more then 10 years now. So my point is pretty much confirmed. I'll believe the self-driving taxi hype when I am every able to drive own to my place of brith. I am pretty confident that is not going to happen before I die.