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When did they become political? The Project 2025 document makes a lot of accusations about this or that department being politicized and left-aligned. But that

When did they become political? The Project 2025 document makes a lot of accusations about this or that department being politicized and left-aligned. But that's not exactly a good standard to go by.

mrguyorama 1y ago
Science in the US became political in like the 50s, when Vannevar Bush decided we should spend federal funds on advancing research since it was so fruitful during WW2, and things like peer review, which did not exist as a formal process in most research, could improve dissemination and the scientific process. It also became political when we were trying to introduce evolution, a well understood and supported scientific discovery, into science curriculums, and that made religious people extremely angry It also became political in like 2000 when Bush jr. banned stem cell research because it made religious people mad. It also became political in like 1980 when Exxon understood unequivocally that they were directly causing the destruction of the Earth's climate and that they could probably just spend money on PR campaigns to make it a culture war issue so they wouldn't have to fix it. It also became political when geology proved the earth was more than 6000 years old. It also became political when Eugenics. This also made religious people angry when scientific racism was demonstrably wrong. It also became political when scientists knew there was a clear connection between cigarettes and lung cancer but it took like thirty years to produce the kind of scientific studies that were required to convince the general public because of immense counter-narrative campaigns by cigarette companies that insisted that cigarettes were healthy. They also became political when the Christian Scientists parlayed their insane cult beliefs into laws to allow them to send their unvaccinated kids to school at everyone else's expense. It also became political in the 90s when the sugar industry funded an immense anti-narrative campaign to trick the majority of the US into believing that fat was more harmful than other forms of the same amount of calories. It is currently political to understand even basic highschool biology like "mRNA won't change your DNA" It was political when a Utah politician and two chemists tried to turn the result of a single extremely poorly run fusion experiment that no physicist was able to replicate and had clear methodological problems (and math problems) that any physicist would have wanted to fix into federal funding to the tune of $25 million after claiming in the Press Release that the intial experiment was funded with $100k of their own money and they wanted maybe a couple million to scale up and confirm their results. It was political when Nazis burned an institute setup to research gender and sexuality. Knowledge has always been political to people who confuse their ignorant beliefs for reality, and rely on public ignorance for their support. You should notice that these events were not politicized by scientists.

When did they become political? The Project 2025 document makes a lot of accusations about this or that department being politicized and left-aligned. But that's not exactly a good standard to go by.

mrguyorama 1y ago

Science in the US became political in like the 50s, when Vannevar Bush decided we should spend federal funds on advancing research since it was so fruitful during WW2, and things like peer review, which did not exist as a formal process in most research, could improve dissemination and the scientific process. It also became political when we were trying to introduce evolution, a well understood and supported scientific discovery, into science curriculums, and that made religious people extremely angry It also became political in like 2000 when Bush jr. banned stem cell research because it made religious people mad. It also became political in like 1980 when Exxon understood unequivocally that they were directly causing the destruction of the Earth's climate and that they could probably just spend money on PR campaigns to make it a culture war issue so they wouldn't have to fix it. It also became political when geology proved the earth was more than 6000 years old. It also became political when Eugenics. This also made religious people angry when scientific racism was demonstrably wrong. It also became political when scientists knew there was a clear connection between cigarettes and lung cancer but it took like thirty years to produce the kind of scientific studies that were required to convince the general public because of immense counter-narrative campaigns by cigarette companies that insisted that cigarettes were healthy. They also became political when the Christian Scientists parlayed their insane cult beliefs into laws to allow them to send their unvaccinated kids to school at everyone else's expense. It also became political in the 90s when the sugar industry funded an immense anti-narrative campaign to trick the majority of the US into believing that fat was more harmful than other forms of the same amount of calories. It is currently political to understand even basic highschool biology like "mRNA won't change your DNA" It was political when a Utah politician and two chemists tried to turn the result of a single extremely poorly run fusion experiment that no physicist was able to replicate and had clear methodological problems (and math problems) that any physicist would have wanted to fix into federal funding to the tune of $25 million after claiming in the Press Release that the intial experiment was funded with $100k of their own money and they wanted maybe a couple million to scale up and confirm their results. It was political when Nazis burned an institute setup to research gender and sexuality. Knowledge has always been political to people who confuse their ignorant beliefs for reality, and rely on public ignorance for their support. You should notice that these events were not politicized by scientists.