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Companies like John Deere have way overplayed their hand, and I'm glad to see the regulatory winds are changing.
by froggertoaster 1y ago
Companies like John Deere have way overplayed their hand, and I'm glad to see the regulatory winds are changing.
- sleepybrett 1y agoThis law does not apply to tractors or game consoles. It's neutered as all fuck. From the article: Of course, these wins come with carve-outs. HB 1483 exempts: Video game consoles Medical devices Motor vehicles Agricultural and construction equipment Security systems and alarm equipment Internet and TV equipment from ISPs Off-road recreational vehicles Large-scale energy storage and solar gear Low earth orbit broadband gear (until 2044)
- dghlsakjg 1y agoBy 2026 my dishwasher is going to have a forced update to run Doom in an effort to be classified as a video game console, isn’t it?
- 20after4 1y agoI don't know if the assholes behind these restrictions are clever enough to think of that loophole. Thanks for giving them the idea!
- thrance 1y agoNo need for that much effort, just have a horde of lawyers convince lawmakers that dishwashers are actually medical devices, that help relieve wrist pain from doing the dishes. A bit of brib- lobbying might help the lawmakers understand if the arguments aren't enough.
- EndsOfnversion 1y agoI think you’ll find “Hurt me plenty” is sufficient for all but the toughest baked on food stains.
- 1970-01-01 1y agoIf Samsung gets Doom to do LAN multiplayer with the coffee machine and the refrigerator, then they all deserve the title of video game console.
- ourmandave 1y agoIt will be a patched Doom that doesn't let you upgrade or fix your armor.
- sidewndr46 1y agoAnything connected to the internet ought to be a "Security system" and should therefore be exempt as well
- peterjmag 1y agoNot sure if the link was changed by the mods or something, but just a heads up that your quote's from the iFixit article [1], not the EFF one [2] [1] https://www.ifixit.com/News/110039/double-trouble-for-repair-monopolies-washington-passes-two-right-to-repair-bills https://www.ifixit.com/News/110039/double-trouble-for-repair... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/right-repair-law-washington-state https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/right-repair-law-washi...
- CobrastanJorji 1y ago...but those are most of the things I want to repair. Did the check from HP not clear?
- Reubachi 1y agohilariously, this states right to repair law does not include road going or ag vehicles. Ya know, the impotus for this now hijacked initiative. "tell me the state of washington protects failing US auto manufacturers and shade tree mechanics without saying it". But hey, at least now I can rest assured knowing that korean smartphones are now going to be a little cheaper to repair in wshington.
- mschuster91 1y agoRoad vehicles should already be covered by existing right-to-repair rights, are they not? Otherwise, how would independent repair shops still exist?
- pavon 1y agoPurely due to industry norms, no laws that I am aware of. For example Tesla makes it much harder for third parties to repair vehicles both by not making parts available and by using DRM/part-pairing/phoning-home to require authorization from them to replace some parts.
- tadfisher 1y agoIt's a traditional benefit of decoupling the sales and maintenance of vehicles from the manufacturer. The manufacturer should not care who buys their parts, so it should be purely an additional revenue stream. ASE certification means any shop can carry out warranty repairs and the manufacturer doesn't have to have repair shops and staff in every city/town. That said, it's not just Tesla that has broken this model; Volkswagen Auto Group in particular are famous for requiring proprietary tools and software packages to diagnose and repair their vehicles, and refusing to sell tools/software to independent shops. I think some manufacturers are just more tightly coupled to dealerships, so there's a profit motive in forcing all repairs to happen through them.
- userbinator 1y agoAlso the not-to-be-underestimated culture around car modding and the aftermarket, which has lead to a situation where you can build a stereotypical mid-century vehicle with entirely aftermarket parts, but parts availability falls drastically for anything newer.
- connicpu 1y ago"Low earth orbit broadband gear" is incredibly specific lol, I believe there's exactly 2 companies with large offices in Washington that would apply to.
- alpb 1y agoDoesn't that include all home Starlink devices?
- connicpu 1y agoPlus Amazon's Kuiper when it eventually launches
- dylan604 1y agoI'm not familiar with BO's rocket offerings other than the New Glenn phallic thingy. I chuckled thinking they'd just have the passengers open the hatch and push the new satellites out and hope they push hard enough to reach orbit.
- shawn_w 1y agoStarlink is one of those 2 companies (or grandfather commenter miscounted and meant 3)
- abnercoimbre 1y agoEverything you listed is what the typical Washington resident will WANT to repair. How is this law even worth celebrating? And how did these companies obtain these exemptions?
- sleepybrett 1y ago.. just like every other carve out exception. Bribes.
- usui 1y agoWhy do right-to-repair bills always have these kinds of exclusions? These are pretty important categories.
- tomwheeler 1y agoLobbyists
- sidewndr46 1y agoSo it carves out most of the stuff I could reasonably expect to be covered under this? The only thing I can see covered would be cell phones and DVD players