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And none of these changes are permanent! Look at the cultural attitudes towards smoking pot. Often the same cities/governments/people what were fining cigaret
by steveBK123 1y ago
And none of these changes are permanent!
Look at the cultural attitudes towards smoking pot. Often the same cities/governments/people what were fining cigarette smoking out of existence suddenly have a hands-off attitude towards pot.
In NYC its illegal to smoke or drink in parks, but you can walk through a park reeking of pot and see cops writing tickets to the 2 kids who hid their beer too poorly.
- jf22 1y agoNot to nitpick but smelling like pot is not a crime.
- steveBK123 1y agoSmoking in public parks is
- DSMan195276 1y agoSmelling like pot in a park doesn't mean you smoked in that park though, you can walk through a park smelling like cigarettes too.
- steveBK123 1y agoOK for the pedants let me be more clear - "NYPD writes tickets to people drinking beers in the park but not to smokers, for reasons". Anecdote lines up with actual data from GOOG: In a three-year period, the NYPD issued a total of 440 tickets for public smoking violations. vs In the period between January and March of this year, the NYPD wrote over 7,000 tickets for public drinking. This represents a significant increase compared to the same period in 2022, with roughly 5,000 more tickets issued.
- jf22 1y agoYou'd need to know the frequency of each crime to determine if enforcement was different.
- jaapz 1y agoBut smoking pot is equally unhealthy as smoking tobacco
- chownie 1y agoNope, that's a plain lie. Cancer risks don't line up between the two at all.
- steveBK123 1y agohttps://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effec... You're right - it might actually be worse, but is still not well studied.
- chownie 1y agoCtrl+F "cancer" 1 result, in the footer, unrelated to the page content So what you actually meant was "it's definitely not as bad as cigarettes" given your lack of evidence despite the link ? Or what, this makes no sense
- david-gpu 1y agoI suggest reading about the different effects of smoking typical amounts of tobacco vs cannabis, and comparing the magnitude of the damage, both at the individual and societal level. I really dislike the smell of cannabis and can count with the fingers of one hand how often I vape it per year, so I am not exactly an advocate, but comparing it with tobacco is silly.
- steveBK123 1y agoI'm doubtful of any motivated reasoning/research that one type of smoke in your lungs is dramatically better than another type of smoke in your lungs... compared with.. no smoke in your lungs. Have an edible, do whatever you want in your own home, enjoy. But don't rationalize the laissez faire attitude towards one type of secondhand smoke over another.
- david-gpu 1y agoHow much does a typical cannabis smoker consume per day? How much does a typical smoker consume per day? See the difference in magnitude? Also, second hand smoke where? Do you often have people smoking indoors with you?
- nonameiguess 1y agoIt's not just the relative harm of a particular dose. People lighting up a joint a day, let alone per week, are not being exposed to anywhere near the dose of the classic multiple pack a day chainsmokers that used to be everywhere and now hardly seem to exist. Even if they're equally harmful per unit, they're not equally harmful as habits to have.
- const_cast 1y agoIt's just simple math. Look, I was a Tobacco smoker, and the level of addiction you have with Tobacco is on another level. I was smoking easily 20 cigs a day. I don't know anyone, even the most stoner of stoners, who smokes 20 joints a day. That doesn't even sound, like, logistically possible. Obviously smoking anything is bad, but getting an order of magnitude or more less smoke HAS to be a big win. Also nicotine. Nicotine even by itself is a problem. Don't listen to Zyn bros, nicotine is in fact evil and it does destroy your cardiovascular system over time.