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All the cool kids are back to smoking because vaping became too mainstream.

by a2tech 1y ago

dagw 1y ago
Yea. My daughter is 15, and while I don't think she smokes, when we've talked about the dangers of vaping and smoking, she has said that she would never vape, just because it's so lame, but that she finds smoking so much cooler.
- shafyy 1y ago
  She's right, smoking is much cooler.
Qem 1y ago
Electronic cigarretes should be made at least as bad smelling as the original ones. Without the foul stench that acted as a barrier of entry before, I suspect vaping has potential to eventually get >50% of the population hooked.
- jaapz 1y ago
  In the Netherlands, we banned flavoured vapes. Now every 12-16 year old has a vape dealer. Just banning is not enough. Society needs to decide vaping is as bad as smoking. Currently it's still somewhat accepted to vape inside of public buildings. Which, IMHO, is insane
  - lolc 1y ago
    > Society needs to decide vaping is as bad as smoking. Why though?
  - Workaccount2 1y ago
    Unfortunately the evidence that vaping is as bad as smoking is mostly from faulty studies, p-hacked studies, or misinformation. Which will ultimately blow up in the face of those trying to push it. The same way "Weed will make you jump out a window" just made kids blanket distrust all "weed is bad" messaging. I'm not arguing for or against vaping, just stating that the negative health effects from vaping appear to be rather minor. In it's pure form its just nicotine and propylene glycol. Nicotine is well studied and similar to caffeine in harm (outside the addiction) and PG is used in medical inhalers (along with almost everything else, seriously its used in food and cosmetics everywhere).
  - const_cast 1y ago
    > Currently it's still somewhat accepted to vape inside of public buildings. Which, IMHO, is insane Well because second hand smoke is so obvious and real and second hand vape... I mean... I'm not convinced it even exists. I see the vapor for about 2 seconds then it's gone. I can sniff as hard as I want, I'm not smelling anything. But smoking? Woof. I could tell someone smoked 2 hours ago from 10 feet away. My fingers used to smell like ash 24/7. Even walking past someone 20 feet away, outside, in the wind, you can clearly smell cigarette smoke. So I don't think it is the same.

All the cool kids are back to smoking because vaping became too mainstream.

by a2tech 1y ago

All the cool kids are back to smoking because vaping became too mainstream.

dagw 1y ago

Yea. My daughter is 15, and while I don't think she smokes, when we've talked about the dangers of vaping and smoking, she has said that she would never vape, just because it's so lame, but that she finds smoking so much cooler.

shafyy 1y ago
She's right, smoking is much cooler.

Qem 1y ago

Electronic cigarretes should be made at least as bad smelling as the original ones. Without the foul stench that acted as a barrier of entry before, I suspect vaping has potential to eventually get >50% of the population hooked.

jaapz 1y ago
In the Netherlands, we banned flavoured vapes. Now every 12-16 year old has a vape dealer. Just banning is not enough. Society needs to decide vaping is as bad as smoking. Currently it's still somewhat accepted to vape inside of public buildings. Which, IMHO, is insane
- lolc 1y ago
  > Society needs to decide vaping is as bad as smoking. Why though?
- Workaccount2 1y ago
  Unfortunately the evidence that vaping is as bad as smoking is mostly from faulty studies, p-hacked studies, or misinformation. Which will ultimately blow up in the face of those trying to push it. The same way "Weed will make you jump out a window" just made kids blanket distrust all "weed is bad" messaging. I'm not arguing for or against vaping, just stating that the negative health effects from vaping appear to be rather minor. In it's pure form its just nicotine and propylene glycol. Nicotine is well studied and similar to caffeine in harm (outside the addiction) and PG is used in medical inhalers (along with almost everything else, seriously its used in food and cosmetics everywhere).
- const_cast 1y ago
  > Currently it's still somewhat accepted to vape inside of public buildings. Which, IMHO, is insane Well because second hand smoke is so obvious and real and second hand vape... I mean... I'm not convinced it even exists. I see the vapor for about 2 seconds then it's gone. I can sniff as hard as I want, I'm not smelling anything. But smoking? Woof. I could tell someone smoked 2 hours ago from 10 feet away. My fingers used to smell like ash 24/7. Even walking past someone 20 feet away, outside, in the wind, you can clearly smell cigarette smoke. So I don't think it is the same.