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Yeah, I stopped reading at "Old People", and I am not even in that demographic. Wholesale discounting all wisdom in an entire segment of people with lots of exp

Yeah, I stopped reading at "Old People", and I am not even in that demographic. Wholesale discounting all wisdom in an entire segment of people with lots of experience in the very field you work in is rarely a good idea. I mean what's up with Knuth being so old? Some young guy should finish out TAoCP and show him how its done.

mikegirouard 14y ago
Agreed. It looks like the author was getting some heat for that point. http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/87899/Seven-Things-I-Hate-About-Agile.aspx#comment179715 http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/87899/... If you take him for his word, I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it (he says he's in that demographic). But I can't say that I'd let him off the hook that easily. Off-hand comments like this almost always come back and bite hard.
- protomyth 14y ago
  "Off-hand comments like this almost always come back and bite hard" If he has influence over hiring / firing, the first age discrimination suit is going to be fun. Stupid blog or e-mail comments give lawyers way too much ammunition in hostile workplace claims.
ExpiredLink 14y ago
And it isn't even true. 'Agile' is appropriate especially for young people who need an entertaining and motivating environment to be productive. The 'social' aspects make Agile appealing to most of them.
PostAgilist 14y ago
Here's my take on the "Olde Agile Coaches". Around 2000 the stock market tanked, and a lot of these old agile coaches were seeing their retirement go away. They didn't have any meaningful programming skills to bring to the workplace, but they needed some income. So what did they do? Become agile coaches! That's why most agile festivals look like an AARP convention, and why they drone on about Zen parables and radical 70s leftism. PostAgilist

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Yeah, I stopped reading at "Old People", and I am not even in that demographic. Wholesale discounting all wisdom in an entire segment of people with lots of exp

by ryanmolden 14y ago

mikegirouard 14y ago
Agreed. It looks like the author was getting some heat for that point. http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/87899/Seven-Things-I-Hate-About-Agile.aspx#comment179715 http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/87899/... If you take him for his word, I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it (he says he's in that demographic). But I can't say that I'd let him off the hook that easily. Off-hand comments like this almost always come back and bite hard.
- protomyth 14y ago
  "Off-hand comments like this almost always come back and bite hard" If he has influence over hiring / firing, the first age discrimination suit is going to be fun. Stupid blog or e-mail comments give lawyers way too much ammunition in hostile workplace claims.
ExpiredLink 14y ago
And it isn't even true. 'Agile' is appropriate especially for young people who need an entertaining and motivating environment to be productive. The 'social' aspects make Agile appealing to most of them.
PostAgilist 14y ago
Here's my take on the "Olde Agile Coaches". Around 2000 the stock market tanked, and a lot of these old agile coaches were seeing their retirement go away. They didn't have any meaningful programming skills to bring to the workplace, but they needed some income. So what did they do? Become agile coaches! That's why most agile festivals look like an AARP convention, and why they drone on about Zen parables and radical 70s leftism. PostAgilist