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> Do I program any faster? Not really. But it feels like I've gained 30% more time in my day because the machine is doing the work. I alternate between giving i

> Do I program any faster? Not really. But it feels like I've gained 30% more time in my day because the machine is doing the work. I alternate between giving it instructions, reading a book, and reviewing the changes. If you would have told me even just six months ago that I'd prefer being an engineering lead to a virtual programmer intern over hitting the keys myself, I would not have believed it. I can go can make a coffee, and progress still happens. I can be at the playground with my youngest while work continues in the background. By this description, the economic case for AI is quite limited. I use AI all the time and for some things it is incredible. It has real downsides (getting things wrong, wasting time due to communication, size of prompt, context limits, etc.) that mean everything needs a thorough review. It also has financial costs. Benefits? Sure. A big shift for "everything"? Not remotely close to email or internet search. Let's keep some perspective. It's massive speculation to call AI a revolution based on current LLMs.

the_mitsuhiko 1y ago
> By this description, the economic case for AI is quite limited. If you do not assume concurrency that is absolutely correct. But even the Claude docs are pointing out that you can run more than one agent in parallel and that is really where the economic benefits would start to kick in.
- d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
  How much does it cost to run several agents?
  - bdangubic 1y ago
    that is the wrong question, the right question is whether the cost is justified by benefits and the answer to (in the hands of right people) is yes
    - d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
      You cannot ask this follow-up unless you first answer mine as to cost. And not cost today but cost for the long haul.
      - bdangubic 1y ago
        the cost is $7bn - is that too much if it generates $10bn in revenue?
        d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
        This is known as question begging; the question is: Do the costs justify the investments? That question can't be answered by assuming they do. Also revenue is not profit.
  - the_mitsuhiko 1y ago
    You can more than one even on the base max plan. So 100 USD gets you started.
    - d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
      Started yes, but in the long term?

the_mitsuhiko 1y ago

> By this description, the economic case for AI is quite limited. If you do not assume concurrency that is absolutely correct. But even the Claude docs are pointing out that you can run more than one agent in parallel and that is really where the economic benefits would start to kick in.

d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
How much does it cost to run several agents?
- bdangubic 1y ago
  that is the wrong question, the right question is whether the cost is justified by benefits and the answer to (in the hands of right people) is yes
  - d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
    You cannot ask this follow-up unless you first answer mine as to cost. And not cost today but cost for the long haul.
    - bdangubic 1y ago
      the cost is $7bn - is that too much if it generates $10bn in revenue?
      - d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
        This is known as question begging; the question is: Do the costs justify the investments? That question can't be answered by assuming they do. Also revenue is not profit.
- the_mitsuhiko 1y ago
  You can more than one even on the base max plan. So 100 USD gets you started.
  - d4rkn0d3z 1y ago
    Started yes, but in the long term?