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Meanwhile in Europe we’re starting to get affordable retro styled hot (well warm) hatches like the Renault 5.

• tmountain 1y ago
  I had a Harley Davidson back in the United States. When I talk to my European friends about motorcycles, this is something that they poke fun at. Automobile culture seems to have different parameters between continents.
  • smackeyacky 1y ago
    It does. For a lot of motorcycle enthusiasts the modest power output and questionable reliability of a Harley don’t make sense if you want a high performance bike. Then again, in a highly surveilled and monitored society, a Hayabusa or something similar more revered makes zero sense since you can’t use the performance legally. The Harley guys are having a lot of fun at modest speeds and the ‘busa riders are either frustrated or getting arrested. So which of these makes more sense?