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According to the article: > Regardless of Amazon's data sovereignty pledge, the parent company remains under American ownership, and may still be subject to th
by jeroenhd 1y ago
According to the article:
> Regardless of Amazon's data sovereignty pledge, the parent company remains under American ownership, and may still be subject to the Cloud Act, which requires US companies to turn over data to law enforcement authorities with the proper warrants, no matter where that data is stored.
How does that work with "decisions about how lawful orders are handled are also made by EU people in the EU"? Will the EU cloud division go rogue once the US attempts to use the CLOUD Act or something?
- jiggawatts 1y agoI always take it as a very bad sign when someone senior working on a project comes to defend their company in a public forum and then mysteriously loses access to their keyboard when half a dozen people immediately raise an objection.
- openplatypus 1y agoAmazon lied about SCCs before. Now they just change vocabulary. Nothing changed.
- djhn 1y agoCould you point to a source, please? I’m not super well versed in the history and lore of cloud and AWS, but interested in and invested in arguing for and supporting adoption of (real) sovereign European computing.
- belter 1y agoIts the EU using Cloudfront... :-) "The General Court orders the Commission to pay damages to a visitor to its ‘Conference on the Future of Europe’ website as a result of the transfer of personal data to the United States" - https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2025-01/cp250001en.pdf https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/202... From further research, it looks like the Amazon data transfer issue was litigated and resolved at the EU level, with the court finding Amazon's practices were lawful under the contracts in place.
- belter 1y agoThey will have their own IAM so technically, they could go rogue... :-)