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I think you have it muddied a little. Consumers often accept less convenient options because it is the right thing to do. Humans are a collective species and w

I think you have it muddied a little. Consumers often accept less convenient options because it is the right thing to do. Humans are a collective species and we make sacrifices for each other all the time. Quick examples at this level plastic bag ban, electric vehicles, disabled parking etc. The groups who are kicking and screaming to try and avoid change is capitalist corporations. They will literally do anything to prevent a hit to their bottom line (they are perfectly happy to murder people for profit) and frankly should have no decision making power.

i_love_retros 1y ago
I think you have it muddied. Plastic bag ban: no one wants to pay for each plastic bag and its also not much of an inconvenience. Unlike having to take 20 glass bottles to get shampoo, milk, drain cleaner, dish soap refilled every month Electric cars: mostly done for virtue signalling and status Disabled parking: not sure what you mean here.
- reillyse 1y ago
  Disabled parking is a communal sacrifice that we as humans respect. I see the free parking in the best spot closest to the place I’m going and I don’t take it because I am a normal human. Sure some people are asseholes, but the vast majority are not.
  - i_love_retros 1y ago
    most people and probably you too (and me) don't take it because it would result in a financial penalty (fine) and social shaming possibly. also the inconvenience of having to walk a bit further to get to the store isn't much really is it. compared to not buying that new plastic phone, new plastic tv, having to take 20 bottles to get refilled with shampoo, shower gel, milk, coffee, cooking oil, etc every month, taking your own container to the take out restaurant (and then cleaning it!!)... no one will do this unless forced to
chneu 1y ago
You're grossly over estimating how willing people are to inconvenience themselves for anything that doesn't immediately benefit them. Your examples don't prove anything. Infact, I'd say they do the opposite. Bag bans are always met with tons of opposition. Electric vehicles are 50 years too late. Idk what disabled parking has to do with anything, people ignore those all the time. People will nearly always choose the easiest and most instantly gratifying option. This is usually selfish.

i_love_retros 1y ago

I think you have it muddied. Plastic bag ban: no one wants to pay for each plastic bag and its also not much of an inconvenience. Unlike having to take 20 glass bottles to get shampoo, milk, drain cleaner, dish soap refilled every month Electric cars: mostly done for virtue signalling and status Disabled parking: not sure what you mean here.

reillyse 1y ago
Disabled parking is a communal sacrifice that we as humans respect. I see the free parking in the best spot closest to the place I’m going and I don’t take it because I am a normal human. Sure some people are asseholes, but the vast majority are not.
- i_love_retros 1y ago
  most people and probably you too (and me) don't take it because it would result in a financial penalty (fine) and social shaming possibly. also the inconvenience of having to walk a bit further to get to the store isn't much really is it. compared to not buying that new plastic phone, new plastic tv, having to take 20 bottles to get refilled with shampoo, shower gel, milk, coffee, cooking oil, etc every month, taking your own container to the take out restaurant (and then cleaning it!!)... no one will do this unless forced to

chneu 1y ago

You're grossly over estimating how willing people are to inconvenience themselves for anything that doesn't immediately benefit them. Your examples don't prove anything. Infact, I'd say they do the opposite. Bag bans are always met with tons of opposition. Electric vehicles are 50 years too late. Idk what disabled parking has to do with anything, people ignore those all the time. People will nearly always choose the easiest and most instantly gratifying option. This is usually selfish.