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> The red-light-running bicyclist blows past the stopped traffic that just had to safely navigate getting around the bicyclist occupying a vehicular travel lane

> The red-light-running bicyclist blows past the stopped traffic that just had to safely navigate getting around the bicyclist occupying a vehicular travel lane, only to be forced to do it all over again. The entitlement of calling it a vehicular travel lane probably means you have a strong bias against cyclists, but I'll try anyway: Doesn't this just prove that it's moot to overtake cyclists in the city? Whenever a car pushes past me (quite often dangerously) I'll overtake them next time they hit a red light anyways. And there I'll filter to the front of the queue (not cycling on red), and be on my way while the car might have to wait a cycle or two more to get through. So why do it? Just relax and drive slow, you'll get there in the same time eventually, without risking someone's life.

RhysU 1y ago
Blowing through lights on a bike, when everyone else obeys them, then claiming it's destiny that you're back in front is brazen illicit entitlement. I just want the lights to apply to everyone in travel lanes equally. I don't care if you are in a clown car, a bus, on rollerblades, dragging a surfboard, etc. Just obey the frigging light.
- matsemann 1y ago
  Did you skip the part where I said I'll be ahead of you even though I don't "blow through" a red light? Yes, you might be faster at a short stretch of road. But through the city a bike will almost always win. So just relax, no need to push past me when there is no room, or honk because I'm in the "vehicular lane". I'd also like the lights to apply to everyone: by removing them. Lets all yield to pedestrians, and then bike through intersections otherwise without waiting. Then cars can sort their own mess out. The lights are for them, an implicit prioritization of cars over humans. I'd like to remove that.
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    - matsemann 1y ago
      You're being obnoxious and breaking the site rules. I spelled out that I'm never cycling on red, still you apply your biases and claim that I do. Behave better. Filtering is btw perfectly legal where I live. I get that drivers become jealous because driving around with 2 sofas and taking up so much space makes one stuck behind others also taking up an insane amount of space. No reason we should wait in their own-made traffic.
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RhysU 1y ago

Blowing through lights on a bike, when everyone else obeys them, then claiming it's destiny that you're back in front is brazen illicit entitlement. I just want the lights to apply to everyone in travel lanes equally. I don't care if you are in a clown car, a bus, on rollerblades, dragging a surfboard, etc. Just obey the frigging light.

matsemann 1y ago
Did you skip the part where I said I'll be ahead of you even though I don't "blow through" a red light? Yes, you might be faster at a short stretch of road. But through the city a bike will almost always win. So just relax, no need to push past me when there is no room, or honk because I'm in the "vehicular lane". I'd also like the lights to apply to everyone: by removing them. Lets all yield to pedestrians, and then bike through intersections otherwise without waiting. Then cars can sort their own mess out. The lights are for them, an implicit prioritization of cars over humans. I'd like to remove that.
- RhysU 1y ago
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  - matsemann 1y ago
    You're being obnoxious and breaking the site rules. I spelled out that I'm never cycling on red, still you apply your biases and claim that I do. Behave better. Filtering is btw perfectly legal where I live. I get that drivers become jealous because driving around with 2 sofas and taking up so much space makes one stuck behind others also taking up an insane amount of space. No reason we should wait in their own-made traffic.
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