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I'm not rabidly pro-bike like some HN posters, but I'm at least in favor of the concept. But I would exhort city bikers and e-bikers, I know it feels convenien

by jerf 1y ago

I'm not rabidly pro-bike like some HN posters, but I'm at least in favor of the concept. But I would exhort city bikers and e-bikers, I know it feels convenient to flip back and forth between being a "car" and a "pedestrian" at a whim, but please don't. You're generally supposed to be a "car", at least where I live. And the step where you were a pedestrian a moment ago and just come wandering into my lane because you're a "car" now is probably about the most dangerous thing you do on a daily basis. Pick a lane, literally and metaphorically. I'm aware of this issue so I'm watching you like a hawk if you're doing this, but I'd advise against betting that everyone else is watching that well. That ped->car transition is very rough on everyone around you. I'll also agree that cars need to be a lot more aware of bikes in general, but this particular issue is definitely on the bikers.

matsemann 1y ago
Make it non-convenient, then! I would love to be able to get to work without having to be forced up onto the sidewalks some places, then out onto the road with no cycle lanes, only to be honked at to then going back to cycle between pedestrians and annoy them as well. So build better cycling infrastructure!
lesuorac 1y ago
> I know it feels convenient to flip back and forth between being a "car" and a "pedestrian" at a whim, but please don't. Meh. I have no problem if a cyclists wants to flip back and forth between a "car" and a "pedestrian". It's just that a "pedestrian" uses their feet to move. So if you want to get off the bike to walk across an intersection with pedestrians; I really don't see a problem.
- tstrimple 1y ago
  Yes but you know that's not what they meant. Cyclists on sidewalks or taking advantage of pedestrian crossings generally aren't walking their bikes.
meagher 1y ago
I bike in NYC and generally agree about the flipping. > You're generally supposed to be a "car", at least where I live. In NYC, cyclists can follow pedestrian walk signals even when traffic light is red. https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2564366&GUID=D4E7E09A-5B98-4C14-BAC8-A9D242408B26 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2...
- lesuorac 1y ago
  That's not accurate. Legislation was _proposed_ to alter the rules cyclists have to follow but it's not passed. Notice how it says "Status: Filed (End of Session)" at the top? Other legislation will say something like "Enacted" [1] [1]: https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2637109&GUID=5C4A53C1-7843-4F0F-8EA9-372ABEA513AE&Options=&Search= https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2...
  - meagher 1y ago
    shared the wrong link above. here's the correct enacted one. https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3872945&GUID=DDBE2BA8-D100-4661-B9D1-00B9E367B25C https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3...

by jerf 1y ago

matsemann 1y ago

Make it non-convenient, then! I would love to be able to get to work without having to be forced up onto the sidewalks some places, then out onto the road with no cycle lanes, only to be honked at to then going back to cycle between pedestrians and annoy them as well. So build better cycling infrastructure!

lesuorac 1y ago

> I know it feels convenient to flip back and forth between being a "car" and a "pedestrian" at a whim, but please don't. Meh. I have no problem if a cyclists wants to flip back and forth between a "car" and a "pedestrian". It's just that a "pedestrian" uses their feet to move. So if you want to get off the bike to walk across an intersection with pedestrians; I really don't see a problem.

tstrimple 1y ago
Yes but you know that's not what they meant. Cyclists on sidewalks or taking advantage of pedestrian crossings generally aren't walking their bikes.

meagher 1y ago

I bike in NYC and generally agree about the flipping. > You're generally supposed to be a "car", at least where I live. In NYC, cyclists can follow pedestrian walk signals even when traffic light is red. https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2564366&GUID=D4E7E09A-5B98-4C14-BAC8-A9D242408B26 https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2...

lesuorac 1y ago
That's not accurate. Legislation was _proposed_ to alter the rules cyclists have to follow but it's not passed. Notice how it says "Status: Filed (End of Session)" at the top? Other legislation will say something like "Enacted" [1] [1]: https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2637109&GUID=5C4A53C1-7843-4F0F-8EA9-372ABEA513AE&Options=&Search= https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2...
- meagher 1y ago
  shared the wrong link above. here's the correct enacted one. https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3872945&GUID=DDBE2BA8-D100-4661-B9D1-00B9E367B25C https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=3...