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Russia is raining deadly missiles on Ukraine regardless. Do you really think Russia is limiting their attacks on Ukraine because of some benevolence? > Lesser

by prmph 1y ago

Russia is raining deadly missiles on Ukraine regardless. Do you really think Russia is limiting their attacks on Ukraine because of some benevolence? > Lesser Power will doubt the threat, call the bluff, and future Lesser Powers will not assume that robot war can be waged without risk. not sure what point you are trying to make here

uukka2 1y ago
Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, Russia is considering the next day with Ukraine. They want a good part of Ukraine to return to the fold. Whether they achieve this is debatable. It would not help if they bombed indiscriminately.
drysine 1y ago
>Do you really think Russia is limiting their attacks on Ukraine because of some benevolence? Yes, obviously. Just consider the rate of civilian death toll in Ukraine vs. military casualties. Civilian deaths are a small fraction of the total number of deaths due to war. For comparison, look at the Israel's special military operation in Gaza, where they are considering deaths of 20 civilians for a single Hamas fighter to be acceptable [0] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-h...
- mopsi 1y ago
  The civilian death toll in Ukraine is severely underreported due to a lack of access to the occupied territories, while the death toll in Gaza is greatly overreported because Hamas is the primary source of information and they are known for inflating the numbers a lot. Another factor is the nature of the warfare. Russia uses forced conscripts from occupied territories (a war crime on its own) in a deliberately wasteful manner to exterminate them. A significant portion of military deaths deserve to be counted as Ukrainian civilians. Nor am I entirely sure that the tens of thousands of convicts coerced into the military can be considered "military" in the conventional sense. Modern standards and definitions are not well aligned with such a feudal behavior.

by prmph 1y ago

uukka2 1y ago

Unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, Russia is considering the next day with Ukraine. They want a good part of Ukraine to return to the fold. Whether they achieve this is debatable. It would not help if they bombed indiscriminately.

drysine 1y ago

>Do you really think Russia is limiting their attacks on Ukraine because of some benevolence? Yes, obviously. Just consider the rate of civilian death toll in Ukraine vs. military casualties. Civilian deaths are a small fraction of the total number of deaths due to war. For comparison, look at the Israel's special military operation in Gaza, where they are considering deaths of 20 civilians for a single Hamas fighter to be acceptable [0] [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-h...

mopsi 1y ago
The civilian death toll in Ukraine is severely underreported due to a lack of access to the occupied territories, while the death toll in Gaza is greatly overreported because Hamas is the primary source of information and they are known for inflating the numbers a lot. Another factor is the nature of the warfare. Russia uses forced conscripts from occupied territories (a war crime on its own) in a deliberately wasteful manner to exterminate them. A significant portion of military deaths deserve to be counted as Ukrainian civilians. Nor am I entirely sure that the tens of thousands of convicts coerced into the military can be considered "military" in the conventional sense. Modern standards and definitions are not well aligned with such a feudal behavior.