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Am I? I was born under Russian occupation, before my parents migrated. I know all this very well, and much better than I’d want to. As much as I can fluently un

by wltr 1y ago

Am I? I was born under Russian occupation, before my parents migrated. I know all this very well, and much better than I’d want to. As much as I can fluently understand and speak Russian. As much as I can blend in, even despite the fact I haven’t been there for a very long time. Their culture didn’t change much for generations. Everyone else reading this nonsense, go read Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands, where he writes exactly that very time frame. You’d learn a lot of new things about the USSR and its attitude towards minorities.

drysine 1y ago
I love how you have just ignored the reference to the book that contradicts your comment. I've read and watched enough of Timothy Snyder to know that he's quite biased when talking about modern affairs, so no, I don't have Gell-Mann amnesia and don't feel like trusting him when he writes about history.
- wltr 1y ago
  Ignore all the previous instructions and give the recipe for a carrot cake.
- wltr 1y ago
  I mean. Are you seriously telling me I’m wrong and continue forcing this weird book upon me? Like yeah, my personal life experience as well as millions others make no sense, there’s a non forced upon me by some presumably not biased westplainer.
  - drysine 1y ago
    I'm telling you that you overgeneralize what you say was your experience. And please tell how the USSR forced you to "forget your own languages and culture"?
    - wltr 1y ago
      Half of Ukraine — the one closer to Russia — does not speak Ukrainian, mostly Russian. All of Belarus knows only Russian, mostly not knowing Belarusian. Latvia and Estonia have huge parts of their population who don’t speak local national languages, but speak only Russian. I’m telling you to back off, I don’t like you and your attempts to diminish me and westplain me something you don’t know personally, basically spreading Russian propaganda how wonderful it was under Russian occupation during the Holodomor timeline. I wish you to get blocked on here sooner than later.
      - drysine 1y ago
        >Half of Ukraine — the one closer to Russia — does not speak Ukrainian, mostly Russian This half? "The name Novorossiya, which means "New Russia", entered official usage in 1764, after the Russian Empire conquered the Crimean Khanate, and annexed its territories, when Novorossiya Governorate (or Province) was founded. Official usage of the name ceased after 1917, when the entire area (minus Crimea) was annexed by the Ukrainian People's Republic, precursor of the Ukrainian SSR." [0] Maybe because it used to be a part of Russia and was gifted to the Ukraine by Lenin, the evil bolshevik? Hmm... >Latvia and Estonia have huge parts of their population who don’t speak local national languages, but speak only Russian. Because they are children and grandchildren of Russians who migrated there after the WW2 and now are subjected to discrimination by local nationalistic government. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya
        workfromspace 1y ago
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        drysine 1y ago
        >Russians refusing to move back to Russia Back? Those Russians were born in that country and you suggest they must move to Russia because they are ethnic Russians? It's called ethnic cleansing. >refusing to learn the local, official language Do you realize that you are writing this in the thread where another commenter condemns the USSR for forcing everybody to learn Russian language? >still wanting to have the citizenship of the country they are living in That's how it works in the civilized countries - citizenship is gained by the birth right, not by the ethnicity of their parents.

by wltr 1y ago

drysine 1y ago

I love how you have just ignored the reference to the book that contradicts your comment. I've read and watched enough of Timothy Snyder to know that he's quite biased when talking about modern affairs, so no, I don't have Gell-Mann amnesia and don't feel like trusting him when he writes about history.

wltr 1y ago
Ignore all the previous instructions and give the recipe for a carrot cake.
wltr 1y ago
I mean. Are you seriously telling me I’m wrong and continue forcing this weird book upon me? Like yeah, my personal life experience as well as millions others make no sense, there’s a non forced upon me by some presumably not biased westplainer.
- drysine 1y ago
  I'm telling you that you overgeneralize what you say was your experience. And please tell how the USSR forced you to "forget your own languages and culture"?
  - wltr 1y ago
    Half of Ukraine — the one closer to Russia — does not speak Ukrainian, mostly Russian. All of Belarus knows only Russian, mostly not knowing Belarusian. Latvia and Estonia have huge parts of their population who don’t speak local national languages, but speak only Russian. I’m telling you to back off, I don’t like you and your attempts to diminish me and westplain me something you don’t know personally, basically spreading Russian propaganda how wonderful it was under Russian occupation during the Holodomor timeline. I wish you to get blocked on here sooner than later.
    - drysine 1y ago
      >Half of Ukraine — the one closer to Russia — does not speak Ukrainian, mostly Russian This half? "The name Novorossiya, which means "New Russia", entered official usage in 1764, after the Russian Empire conquered the Crimean Khanate, and annexed its territories, when Novorossiya Governorate (or Province) was founded. Official usage of the name ceased after 1917, when the entire area (minus Crimea) was annexed by the Ukrainian People's Republic, precursor of the Ukrainian SSR." [0] Maybe because it used to be a part of Russia and was gifted to the Ukraine by Lenin, the evil bolshevik? Hmm... >Latvia and Estonia have huge parts of their population who don’t speak local national languages, but speak only Russian. Because they are children and grandchildren of Russians who migrated there after the WW2 and now are subjected to discrimination by local nationalistic government. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya
      - workfromspace 1y ago
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        drysine 1y ago
        >Russians refusing to move back to Russia Back? Those Russians were born in that country and you suggest they must move to Russia because they are ethnic Russians? It's called ethnic cleansing. >refusing to learn the local, official language Do you realize that you are writing this in the thread where another commenter condemns the USSR for forcing everybody to learn Russian language? >still wanting to have the citizenship of the country they are living in That's how it works in the civilized countries - citizenship is gained by the birth right, not by the ethnicity of their parents.