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John Gruber's mental gymnastics are a fascinating read sometimes. Here, he basically says 'Apple (and the other giants) will try to not comply with the spirit o

by zevon 1y ago

John Gruber's mental gymnastics are a fascinating read sometimes. Here, he basically says 'Apple (and the other giants) will try to not comply with the spirit of the EU regulations, so less regulation it is better for customers'. Weird argument, IMO.

theshrike79 1y ago
You don't find it interesting how Google and Samsung aren't getting the same scrutiny? What if I want Siri on my Samsung phone? Or Mistral on a Google phone, integrated as deeply as Gemini is?
- zevon 1y ago
  Don't they get the same scrutiny? Google certainly has had its troubles with regulations (Samsung, specifically, I'm not sure about but based on their size alone, I would assume as much). Microsoft as well, to name another (in)famous example of regulatory clashes from the past. As to your question: I personally think you should be able to install and use whatever you want on whatever platform you want. I also think that is the general direction these EU regulations are aiming, so I'm not entirely sure what your point is, exactly?
  - theshrike79 1y ago
    My point is, why are they singling out Apple? Apple was forced to add 3rd party stores to their devices. Why didn't they do that for Xbox, Playstation and Switch? They're all locked "walled gardens", where you can't add 3rd party software outside of the official stores.
    - zevon 1y ago
      Are they doing that in this case? The DMA is not targeted at Apple specifically. The clarifications linked by Gruber are - and I would assume that there are similar clarifications for other companies' products as well (especially if those other companies raised as much stink in the press as Apple does). I also assume Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would also face more targeted regulatory attention if their consoles were as ubiquitous and utility-like as smartphones are (MS certaintly has for Windows). I would even assume that a company could accelerate this process by being as persistent and public as Epic is in regards to Apple.
- aPoCoMiLogin 1y ago
  You can do that

by zevon 1y ago

theshrike79 1y ago

You don't find it interesting how Google and Samsung aren't getting the same scrutiny? What if I want Siri on my Samsung phone? Or Mistral on a Google phone, integrated as deeply as Gemini is?

zevon 1y ago
Don't they get the same scrutiny? Google certainly has had its troubles with regulations (Samsung, specifically, I'm not sure about but based on their size alone, I would assume as much). Microsoft as well, to name another (in)famous example of regulatory clashes from the past. As to your question: I personally think you should be able to install and use whatever you want on whatever platform you want. I also think that is the general direction these EU regulations are aiming, so I'm not entirely sure what your point is, exactly?
- theshrike79 1y ago
  My point is, why are they singling out Apple? Apple was forced to add 3rd party stores to their devices. Why didn't they do that for Xbox, Playstation and Switch? They're all locked "walled gardens", where you can't add 3rd party software outside of the official stores.
  - zevon 1y ago
    Are they doing that in this case? The DMA is not targeted at Apple specifically. The clarifications linked by Gruber are - and I would assume that there are similar clarifications for other companies' products as well (especially if those other companies raised as much stink in the press as Apple does). I also assume Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo would also face more targeted regulatory attention if their consoles were as ubiquitous and utility-like as smartphones are (MS certaintly has for Windows). I would even assume that a company could accelerate this process by being as persistent and public as Epic is in regards to Apple.
aPoCoMiLogin 1y ago
You can do that