It might be a bit more indirect, like no one in this state understands consciousness but they are still capable of introspection. In essence I'm just saying co

It might be a bit more indirect, like no one in this state understands consciousness but they are still capable of introspection. In essence I'm just saying consciousness affects the world (e.g. it vibrates the air one way instead of another when we talk about it). This implies we can create experiments to learn about it through its effects on the world.