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Trello pricing just got a lot more reasonable, but there is one feature that might get me thinking of moving: conditional logic in automations. Be advised that

Trello pricing just got a lot more reasonable, but there is one feature that might get me thinking of moving: conditional logic in automations. Be advised that Trello is now $5/mo. It's gonna be hard to compete here.

croes 1y ago
You can’t trust US companies anymore, they easily can become a weapon in a trade war.
- jjtheblunt 1y ago
  What's an example of a US company being weaponized in a trade war?
  - kfkdjajgjic 1y ago
    There are plenty, but most obvious nvidia which cannot even ship gpus to greenland currently.
    - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
      Is there a ton of industry reeling on that issue? Or is that closer to a silly example?
      - croes 1y ago
        Ask Switzerland who only got restricted access to AI chips. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multinational-companies/us-restricts-switzerlands-access-to-ai-chips/88781270 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multinational-companies/us-rest... We still remeber the Crypto Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
        xet7 1y ago
        Currently we are at Backdoor Wars https://github.com/howinfo/howinfo/wiki/Backdoor https://github.com/howinfo/howinfo/wiki/Backdoor
  - croes 1y ago
    I wrote "can become". We are just one executive order away. Just look what they try with Harvard. The EU is an easier target. Just ban M365 for EU use. Think of this at a larger scale https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto...
- robinhood 1y ago
  Beware of European companies too if there is a WWIII. Beware of Asian companies because China is not far away. What a weird comment.
  - bigfudge 1y ago
    I don’t think it’s weird to worry about this sort of stuff, although I think trello would be quite far down the list. I’d worry about the impact of Ms being weaponised first.
  - croes 1y ago
    We are already on the brink of a full-blown trade war. It was already bad thanks to the CloudAct, but now it got worse. The previous adminstration at least tried to value the rights of EU citizens. The US now have the same trust level as China. Congratulations. At least China's support for Russia is more hidden. And the US already showed what happens if you don't comply to US wishes https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto... Show me any other country that did this to their allies.
- kjs3 1y ago
  Indeed...we are the only country that uses trade to influence others. You got us.
  - croes 1y ago
    Who said use of trade? The threat are sanctions to ban the use of the software, like they cancelled the ICC investigators bank account on behalf of the US. https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto... You're the only western country that enforces their sanctions on third party countries. For instance a german customer can't pay a german merchant via PayPal if he buys Cuban cigars, despite it's done by PayPal Europe S.a.r.l. et Cie s.c.a. And don't forget the things with Greenland.
    - kjs3 1y ago
      The threat are sanctions Which is trade. Thanks for playing.
      - seanhunter 1y ago
        Saying things like “thanks for playing” goes against the HN guideline of “avoiding snark”.
- antithesizer 1y ago
  You can't trust companies. Indeed, you never could.
- lmm 1y ago
  WTF? Atlassian is famously Australian (although they have a terrible security law that should make people nervous).
  - croes 1y ago
    The American-Australian so they fall under der CloudAct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian
xet7 1y ago
WeKan https://wekan.github.io https://wekan.github.io has IFTTT Rules like Trello Butler: https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/IFTTT https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/IFTTT And webhooks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44165008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44165008 WeKan has these, that Trello does not have: Swimlanes, all code Open Source, On-Premise hosting, etc

croes 1y ago

You can’t trust US companies anymore, they easily can become a weapon in a trade war.

jjtheblunt 1y ago
What's an example of a US company being weaponized in a trade war?
- kfkdjajgjic 1y ago
  There are plenty, but most obvious nvidia which cannot even ship gpus to greenland currently.
  - SV_BubbleTime 1y ago
    Is there a ton of industry reeling on that issue? Or is that closer to a silly example?
    - croes 1y ago
      Ask Switzerland who only got restricted access to AI chips. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multinational-companies/us-restricts-switzerlands-access-to-ai-chips/88781270 https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/multinational-companies/us-rest... We still remeber the Crypto Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
      - xet7 1y ago
        Currently we are at Backdoor Wars https://github.com/howinfo/howinfo/wiki/Backdoor https://github.com/howinfo/howinfo/wiki/Backdoor
- croes 1y ago
  I wrote "can become". We are just one executive order away. Just look what they try with Harvard. The EU is an easier target. Just ban M365 for EU use. Think of this at a larger scale https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto...
robinhood 1y ago
Beware of European companies too if there is a WWIII. Beware of Asian companies because China is not far away. What a weird comment.
- bigfudge 1y ago
  I don’t think it’s weird to worry about this sort of stuff, although I think trello would be quite far down the list. I’d worry about the impact of Ms being weaponised first.
- croes 1y ago
  We are already on the brink of a full-blown trade war. It was already bad thanks to the CloudAct, but now it got worse. The previous adminstration at least tried to value the rights of EU citizens. The US now have the same trust level as China. Congratulations. At least China's support for Russia is more hidden. And the US already showed what happens if you don't comply to US wishes https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto... Show me any other country that did this to their allies.
kjs3 1y ago
Indeed...we are the only country that uses trade to influence others. You got us.
- croes 1y ago
  Who said use of trade? The threat are sanctions to ban the use of the software, like they cancelled the ICC investigators bank account on behalf of the US. https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecutor-lost-email-bank-accounts-frozen-trump-sanctions/ https://www.lbc.co.uk/world-news/british-icc-chief-prosecuto... You're the only western country that enforces their sanctions on third party countries. For instance a german customer can't pay a german merchant via PayPal if he buys Cuban cigars, despite it's done by PayPal Europe S.a.r.l. et Cie s.c.a. And don't forget the things with Greenland.
  - kjs3 1y ago
    The threat are sanctions Which is trade. Thanks for playing.
    - seanhunter 1y ago
      Saying things like “thanks for playing” goes against the HN guideline of “avoiding snark”.
antithesizer 1y ago
You can't trust companies. Indeed, you never could.
lmm 1y ago
WTF? Atlassian is famously Australian (although they have a terrible security law that should make people nervous).
- croes 1y ago
  The American-Australian so they fall under der CloudAct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlassian

xet7 1y ago

WeKan https://wekan.github.io https://wekan.github.io has IFTTT Rules like Trello Butler: https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/IFTTT https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/IFTTT And webhooks: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44165008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44165008 WeKan has these, that Trello does not have: Swimlanes, all code Open Source, On-Premise hosting, etc