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The visual arts are now having their Ikea moment. Ikea didn't kill woodworking/carpentry/joinery. I know several people that have invested into a lot of time

The visual arts are now having their Ikea moment. Ikea didn't kill woodworking/carpentry/joinery. I know several people that have invested into a lot of time and *a lot* of money into them as a hobby. It's still an art. But Ikea did reduce it as a commercially viable avenue profession for more than a handful of people making boutique products. But the DJ killed the wedding band, and the iPod/Spotify killed the DJ, if we weren't gonna a shed a tear for them (and maybe we should have?), why now? People will still use art for their personal expression. That's older than recorded history, it's just industrialised commercial-grade investable art that is at risk.

Muromec 1y ago
>People will still use art for their personal expression. That's older than recorded history, it's just industrialised commercial-grade investable art that is at risk. I think the problem here, from the social petspective, is -- how many people can enjoy creating art and what kind of a society we will have, where only a few can earn a living by doing so. Or from another angle -- how long we can create more ways to create art to outrun the oncoming reign of night that strips away all of the fun thing we had before.
- Pet_Ant 1y ago
  > from the social perspective, is -- how many people can enjoy creating art and what kind of a society we will have, where only a few can earn a living by doing so. 1) Only a few people can make a living out of doing it today 2) It's already the case with woodworkers, knitters, and so many other arts. How many people can make a living making pottery? > how long we can create more ways to create art to outrun the oncoming reign of night that strips away all of the fun thing we had before. You can still create the art. When your girlfriend cheats on you and runs away with your best friend and your dog, your still gonna want to write your own country song. Not because it'll sell, but because you want to tell your own story in your words.
drewcoo 1y ago
>> The visual arts are now having their Ikea moment. > Ikea didn't kill woodworking/carpentry/joinery. Ikea made build-it-at-home a thing. Ikea is the "first marriage" and the "recently divorced" furniture shop. Before people can afford better. While it's still helpful for the furniture store to have child care and meatballs. Great place to shop for recently-divorced folks! Would recommend. Five Stars! Material design is the Ikea of design. Without the humanity. Without even a hint of a desire for fluid exchange.

Muromec 1y ago

>People will still use art for their personal expression. That's older than recorded history, it's just industrialised commercial-grade investable art that is at risk. I think the problem here, from the social petspective, is -- how many people can enjoy creating art and what kind of a society we will have, where only a few can earn a living by doing so. Or from another angle -- how long we can create more ways to create art to outrun the oncoming reign of night that strips away all of the fun thing we had before.

Pet_Ant 1y ago
> from the social perspective, is -- how many people can enjoy creating art and what kind of a society we will have, where only a few can earn a living by doing so. 1) Only a few people can make a living out of doing it today 2) It's already the case with woodworkers, knitters, and so many other arts. How many people can make a living making pottery? > how long we can create more ways to create art to outrun the oncoming reign of night that strips away all of the fun thing we had before. You can still create the art. When your girlfriend cheats on you and runs away with your best friend and your dog, your still gonna want to write your own country song. Not because it'll sell, but because you want to tell your own story in your words.

drewcoo 1y ago

>> The visual arts are now having their Ikea moment. > Ikea didn't kill woodworking/carpentry/joinery. Ikea made build-it-at-home a thing. Ikea is the "first marriage" and the "recently divorced" furniture shop. Before people can afford better. While it's still helpful for the furniture store to have child care and meatballs. Great place to shop for recently-divorced folks! Would recommend. Five Stars! Material design is the Ikea of design. Without the humanity. Without even a hint of a desire for fluid exchange.