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Clear example of why people like TikTok. There's no reason that video should be 10 minutes.

by xnx 1y ago

woleium 1y ago
There is a “ten minute rule” for youtube video to maximize reach / clout / whatever the kids are looking for.
- spencerflem 1y ago
  Its ad revenue, I think. Yt pays out more for that length since it has midroll ads.
jader201 1y ago
I just watched the whole thing, and I didn’t mind. I feel like people have just gotten so used to 10-second videos, and anything longer now feels like an eternity. I really hope people don’t stop making longer form videos in favor of TikTok-sized videos.
- neilv 1y ago
  But, clicking around randomly, it seems that this video has been dragged out in length for no reason other than to be longer, presumably for YouTube financial (perverse) incentives.
  - jader201 1y ago
    For sure, I’m not advocating intentionally lengthening videos for financial incentives, either. I guess I didn’t immediately get that impression when I watched it, but I wasn’t watching it with that in mind. My point is I don’t mind filler in videos, if it’s true to what’s naturally happening. But intentionally adding filler is, indeed, poor form.
- gherkinnn 1y ago
  I don't watch any reels/shorts/etc and find this style of bloated YT video unbearable. I am all for long form videos, but have the decency to go beyond an empty vessel for ads.
seszett 1y ago
Not sure about TikTok, but in this video and YouTube in general, you can just directly go to where most people go, and this way (I'm always a bit amazed that this actually works) you can generally see the actually important points of the video.
- MangoToupe 1y ago
  TikTok caps video length. Indeed, the #1 issue with youtube is the videos are way too long. (Also the ads, and comments, recommendations, search, etc,) but video length is certainly why I haven't bothered to watch anything on youtube for a long time (edit: logged in. I still watch clips people send me ofc in the group chat ofc). I'd delete my account if it weren't tied to my email for some inexplicable reason.
- odysseus 1y ago
  How do you "directly go to where most people go"? Assuming you don't have timestamps in the comments or video description.
  - itishappy 1y ago
    The wave when you hover over the progress bar is a graph of popularity. https://i.imgur.com/XO6cUo5.png https://i.imgur.com/XO6cUo5.png Edit: Wait... Does everybody see this? It's not on all videos, but it's on most for me, but my girlfriend says she never noticed it. I can't find any articles claiming it was ever fully rolled out, so maybe it's a premium feature? Here's the vid if anybody wants to check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_lJM1cKNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_lJM1cKNQ
    - odysseus 1y ago
      I don’t see it on mobile unless I turn off my ad blocking extension. Thank you! Never knew that was there. Great video btw, two musicians with great communication and flow
GuB-42 1y ago
I agree, but would be even worse as a TikTok video. Shorts are absolutely terrible as product reviews. The point of a product review is to explore different aspects and use cases, otherwise it is an ad. It doesn't mean that long videos can't be ads, but short videos can't be anything but ads (if positive). Shorts have a place, TikTok is great for silly dance moves, magic tricks, or people working really fast. You can even have short form educative content, though it usually doesn't go further than random trivia. But product reviews just don't work, unless they are ads. And in fact, ads don't even work that well as people tend to forget about them quickly.

Clear example of why people like TikTok. There's no reason that video should be 10 minutes.

by xnx 1y ago

Clear example of why people like TikTok. There's no reason that video should be 10 minutes.

woleium 1y ago

There is a “ten minute rule” for youtube video to maximize reach / clout / whatever the kids are looking for.

spencerflem 1y ago
Its ad revenue, I think. Yt pays out more for that length since it has midroll ads.

jader201 1y ago

I just watched the whole thing, and I didn’t mind. I feel like people have just gotten so used to 10-second videos, and anything longer now feels like an eternity. I really hope people don’t stop making longer form videos in favor of TikTok-sized videos.

neilv 1y ago
But, clicking around randomly, it seems that this video has been dragged out in length for no reason other than to be longer, presumably for YouTube financial (perverse) incentives.
- jader201 1y ago
  For sure, I’m not advocating intentionally lengthening videos for financial incentives, either. I guess I didn’t immediately get that impression when I watched it, but I wasn’t watching it with that in mind. My point is I don’t mind filler in videos, if it’s true to what’s naturally happening. But intentionally adding filler is, indeed, poor form.
gherkinnn 1y ago
I don't watch any reels/shorts/etc and find this style of bloated YT video unbearable. I am all for long form videos, but have the decency to go beyond an empty vessel for ads.

seszett 1y ago

Not sure about TikTok, but in this video and YouTube in general, you can just directly go to where most people go, and this way (I'm always a bit amazed that this actually works) you can generally see the actually important points of the video.

MangoToupe 1y ago
TikTok caps video length. Indeed, the #1 issue with youtube is the videos are way too long. (Also the ads, and comments, recommendations, search, etc,) but video length is certainly why I haven't bothered to watch anything on youtube for a long time (edit: logged in. I still watch clips people send me ofc in the group chat ofc). I'd delete my account if it weren't tied to my email for some inexplicable reason.
odysseus 1y ago
How do you "directly go to where most people go"? Assuming you don't have timestamps in the comments or video description.
- itishappy 1y ago
  The wave when you hover over the progress bar is a graph of popularity. https://i.imgur.com/XO6cUo5.png https://i.imgur.com/XO6cUo5.png Edit: Wait... Does everybody see this? It's not on all videos, but it's on most for me, but my girlfriend says she never noticed it. I can't find any articles claiming it was ever fully rolled out, so maybe it's a premium feature? Here's the vid if anybody wants to check: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_lJM1cKNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq_lJM1cKNQ
  - odysseus 1y ago
    I don’t see it on mobile unless I turn off my ad blocking extension. Thank you! Never knew that was there. Great video btw, two musicians with great communication and flow

GuB-42 1y ago

I agree, but would be even worse as a TikTok video. Shorts are absolutely terrible as product reviews. The point of a product review is to explore different aspects and use cases, otherwise it is an ad. It doesn't mean that long videos can't be ads, but short videos can't be anything but ads (if positive). Shorts have a place, TikTok is great for silly dance moves, magic tricks, or people working really fast. You can even have short form educative content, though it usually doesn't go further than random trivia. But product reviews just don't work, unless they are ads. And in fact, ads don't even work that well as people tend to forget about them quickly.