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>the truth is in the middle No it isn't. Russia's reports are complete fabrications.
by tokai 1y ago
>the truth is in the middle
No it isn't. Russia's reports are complete fabrications.
- at0mic22 1y agoIn 2022 Ukraine reported Russia has missiles for 3 days. Trustworthy.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> in 2022 Ukraine reported Russia has missiles for 3 days Source? (Kyiv was agitating for Western aid in 2022. It would be odd for them to be downplaying the threat.)
- at0mic22 1y agoIt is a very well known meme to be honest [1] https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/articles/2022/12/19/7381305/?_x_tr_sl=uk&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://www-pravda-com-ua.translate.goog/articles/2022/12/19...
- cosmicgadget 1y agoAre you confusing Russia's three day war plan with claims about their munitions supplies?
- wltr 1y agoMore likely they cite some local city madmen who were spilling ‘Russia will fall within weeks’ narrative. Which is pretty harmful for Ukraine and their allies. However, when Russia will fall, it would be a quick and sudden, as with the USSR. They fake and fabricate everything, and huge chance they themselves might be unaware how bad things really are.
- at0mic22 1y agoUkrainian Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council is definitely some local city madman
- wltr 1y agoI rather meant real weirdos, mostly YouTube experts et al. But well, if the official had it said … However, there’s this one weirdo who held official position (if I’m not mistaken) yet he was spilling similar nonsense for … well, he may still do that, I’m not aware. He’s this infamous Mr Arestovych, all I’m aware is him pushing Russian narratives these days and not holding any official position these days. I’ve heard him being even sanctioned for treason-like something, but I’m really not following him much to tell more. That’s who came to my head first, as he’s quite infamous for this ‘Russia will fall within 2…3 weeks.’
- at0mic22 1y agoYep, this guy also delivered this nonsense when working as a president advisor. Since then I am genuinely surprised when someone brings ukrainian official statements on the table. Like, really guys?
- dieortin 1y agoYou’re surprised by that, yet you do the same with Russian official statements, which have an even worse track record?
- bdangubic 1y agoThis is a war, both on the ground and even more in the media. Both Russian and Ukrainian reports will generally be fabrications…
- rcxdude 1y agoIn the generous interpretation of 'middle'. Ukrainian reports tend to be a lot closer to the truth than Russian reports, but they do still have some bias (as in it's rare that things are better then Ukraine is making out).
- at0mic22 1y agoUkraine is damn good at media war, although it has nothing to do with real life. The real marker is immediate numbers. I bet even Russians yet to find out how many aircrafts have they irrecoverably lost, however we get numbers reported as if they are confirmed. Cheap
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> In the generous interpretation of 'middle'. Ukrainian reports tend to be a lot closer to the truth than Russian reports, but they do still have some bias Sure. But the solution isn't to interpolate Russian and Ukraininan claims, as the former have been proven time and again to be complete fabrications. Instead, a good M.O. is to take Ukraininan claims with a grain of salt until corroborated by either open-source or third-party analysis.