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Worth noting that it is about strategic bombers only. Even is all of them are destroyed - Russians will continue everyday terror against cities as usual, but fr

Worth noting that it is about strategic bombers only. Even is all of them are destroyed - Russians will continue everyday terror against cities as usual, but from other platforms. Pure evil country.

mannerheim 1y ago
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- justsomehnguy 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_December_2023_Belgorod_shelling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_December_2023_Belgorod_shel... > Twenty-five people,[15] including five children,[1] were reported to have been killed in the attacks, while 108 people,[3] including 17 children, were injured.[2]
  - mannerheim 1y ago
    >The attack occurred a day after Russia launched airstrikes at multiple cities in Ukraine, killing 57 and wounding 160. Needed to get 32 more.
  - ponector 1y ago
    Those are unverified claims. If you are going to believe to everything Russians say then they already destroyed Ukrainian army several times. Here is from 2024: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-jets-helicopter-aircraft-losses-1873253 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-jets-helicopter-airc...
- lxm 1y ago
  Ukraine is outmatched on ammo. Also, some of the Western kit comes with restrictions on what exactly and how far they can hit inside Russia.
  - mannerheim 1y ago
    They produce large quantities of drones, like the kind that were used in this operation. 2.2 million in 2024. Some of those could be diverted to worthwhile targets for deterrence purposes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/12/45-million-drones-is-a-lot-of-drones-its-ukraines-new-production-target-for-2025/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/12/45-million-...
- jopsen 1y ago
  Ukraine don't win that way, and they don't get support from Europe that way. If Russian lives were valued, they wouldn't have started the conflict, much less continued it they way they do. So no, for Ukraine I don't see what purpose targeting civilians would bring.
  - mannerheim 1y ago
    Russia has gone to great lengths to insulate its populace from feeling the effects of the war. For Russians not directly involved in the war, one could hardly tell there even was a war going on. You can see this from interviews with the residents of Sudzha. Whether or not they value individual lives, putting a hospital out of commission will be something they will need to divert resources to.
falcor84 1y ago
>Pure evil country. There are no evil countries. There are people making choices, and they can always make other choices. Things aren't fixed and Russia can still have a different and better future.
- hayst4ck 1y ago
  There might not be evil countries, but there are absolutely evil governments and broken cultures. Sometimes defeat is required for change and sometimes change can only come from the outside.
- TiredOfLife 1y ago
  What about the past 100+ years of Russian history makes you think that?
  - wltr 1y ago
    Maybe they just studied Russian history in Russia. It’s mostly about ‘we are saints, everyone else’s are against us’ narrative. With ‘but we are still invulnerable victors, after all’ which some other nations are tricked to believe. And hence fear.
- ponector 1y ago
  The third Reich was not evil. As USSR. Mass murdering just happened by accident. Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Iran are not evil as well. Why they are sanctioned?
  - falcor84 1y ago
    As I see it, tagging countries as "evil" is a "thought-terminating cliché". Even in the third reich, there were people trying everything in their power to do good. It's a bit of a semantic argument, but those people fighting the good fight generally don't think of themselves as fighting "against their country" but rather "for their country" and against the individuals who took over it.

Worth noting that it is about strategic bombers only. Even is all of them are destroyed - Russians will continue everyday terror against cities as usual, but from other platforms. Pure evil country.

mannerheim 1y ago

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justsomehnguy 1y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_December_2023_Belgorod_shelling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_December_2023_Belgorod_shel... > Twenty-five people,[15] including five children,[1] were reported to have been killed in the attacks, while 108 people,[3] including 17 children, were injured.[2]
- mannerheim 1y ago
  >The attack occurred a day after Russia launched airstrikes at multiple cities in Ukraine, killing 57 and wounding 160. Needed to get 32 more.
- ponector 1y ago
  Those are unverified claims. If you are going to believe to everything Russians say then they already destroyed Ukrainian army several times. Here is from 2024: https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-jets-helicopter-aircraft-losses-1873253 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-jets-helicopter-airc...
lxm 1y ago
Ukraine is outmatched on ammo. Also, some of the Western kit comes with restrictions on what exactly and how far they can hit inside Russia.
- mannerheim 1y ago
  They produce large quantities of drones, like the kind that were used in this operation. 2.2 million in 2024. Some of those could be diverted to worthwhile targets for deterrence purposes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/12/45-million-drones-is-a-lot-of-drones-its-ukraines-new-production-target-for-2025/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2025/03/12/45-million-...
jopsen 1y ago
Ukraine don't win that way, and they don't get support from Europe that way. If Russian lives were valued, they wouldn't have started the conflict, much less continued it they way they do. So no, for Ukraine I don't see what purpose targeting civilians would bring.
- mannerheim 1y ago
  Russia has gone to great lengths to insulate its populace from feeling the effects of the war. For Russians not directly involved in the war, one could hardly tell there even was a war going on. You can see this from interviews with the residents of Sudzha. Whether or not they value individual lives, putting a hospital out of commission will be something they will need to divert resources to.

falcor84 1y ago

>Pure evil country. There are no evil countries. There are people making choices, and they can always make other choices. Things aren't fixed and Russia can still have a different and better future.

hayst4ck 1y ago
There might not be evil countries, but there are absolutely evil governments and broken cultures. Sometimes defeat is required for change and sometimes change can only come from the outside.
TiredOfLife 1y ago
What about the past 100+ years of Russian history makes you think that?
- wltr 1y ago
  Maybe they just studied Russian history in Russia. It’s mostly about ‘we are saints, everyone else’s are against us’ narrative. With ‘but we are still invulnerable victors, after all’ which some other nations are tricked to believe. And hence fear.
ponector 1y ago
The third Reich was not evil. As USSR. Mass murdering just happened by accident. Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Iran are not evil as well. Why they are sanctioned?
- falcor84 1y ago
  As I see it, tagging countries as "evil" is a "thought-terminating cliché". Even in the third reich, there were people trying everything in their power to do good. It's a bit of a semantic argument, but those people fighting the good fight generally don't think of themselves as fighting "against their country" but rather "for their country" and against the individuals who took over it.