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The latest technique is (besides the fiber optic stuff) is running the command and control over the local phone network of the country you’re in so it just look
by mdhb 1y ago
The latest technique is (besides the fiber optic stuff) is running the command and control over the local phone network of the country you’re in so it just looks like regular mobile data. That’s what allegedly happened here.
- maxgashkov 1y agoAccording to videos published they still seem to be flying drones manually, so won't additional latency introduced by the cellular network & repeaters make this really hard / impossible?
- tonyarkles 1y agoI don’t have a link handy but one of the videos I saw on Twitter looked like there was pretty bad latency. Once they got to the target aircraft they went into a hover and very slowly set it down on the wing before the FPV feed froze. Edit: https://x.com/jimmysecuk/status/1929164382061092952 https://x.com/jimmysecuk/status/1929164382061092952
- mrheosuper 1y agothey were using ardupilot, so the control they gave is "move to this point then descend", latency does not matter much as long as it's reasonable.
- tonyarkles 1y agoIn most of the videos I've seen there are failsafe warnings on the screen indicating a loss of GPS, which I'm not surprised at all about. Russia's well-known for having GPS jammers, and having them on-site at an airforce base when the enemy they've been fighting is using drones is just common sense. The video I linked to really looks to me like it's being stick flown with IMU stabilization but probably without Pos Hold.
- mmooss 1y agoWhy land slowly if the plan is to blow up the drone?
- hagbard_c 1y agoBecause you want it to explode at the right location, not get blown off course by a gust of wind or bounce off the wing and explode in the air.
- mmooss 1y agoExploding on impact seems like a very mature, well-established technology.
- hollerith 1y agoExploding on impact is a mature tech for things like shells, but it requires building a mechanism into the shell so that it won't explode before it is fired. If the drone will be controlled by a human operator till the end, then it might win for the drone design to avoid the complexity of a sensor to detect impacts and of the aforementioned mechanism. Also, landing on an airplane wing is easier to train for and to test than a mission plan that involves a drone that explodes on impact.
- hagbard_c 1y ago> Also, landing on an airplane wing is easier to train for and to test than a mission plan that involves a drone that explodes on impact. ...and more importantly it is also easier to automate, i.e. autoland on wing spar, detonate, mission complete.
- Teever 1y agoHave you checked the latency on modern cell networks lately? I had a friend who was gaming on his phone that was tethered to his desktop about a decade ago and after he disabled some power saving stuff in the settings on android he was getting a reasonable 100ms ping that had negligible jitter.
- at0mic22 1y agoStarting July 1st all SIM cards in Russia need to have the owner register his biometry and passport details, otherwise the number is blocked. Ukrainians had a window to perform this operation but I doubt they'll have the same approach possible in future.
- grugagag 1y agoYou think hacking SIMS is not possible in Russia?
- at0mic22 1y agoWhat do you mean by that? Stealing someone's sim? Doable, but detectable.
- grugagag 1y agoDetectable after the attack is not very useful. They could even clone high ranking officials’ sims cards or the sims of just any regular folk…
- at0mic22 1y agoQuite easy to track though, like double sign-ins from different devices, uncommon locations, location and speed matching - like phone going 25mph in the forest. And you don't need to permablock it, few minutes would be enough.