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Doesn't look like that. The footage released so far shows almost exclusively bombers. Here's a row of Tu-95 bombers burning, plus a single transporter at the en
by mopsi 1y ago
Doesn't look like that. The footage released so far shows almost exclusively bombers. Here's a row of Tu-95 bombers burning, plus a single transporter at the end of the row: https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lqkf6ghq3s2l https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3lqkf6ghq3s2l
At the very end, you can even see how the bombers were hit: a drone strikes the right wing of a Tu-95, causing the internal fuel tanks to catch fire and spill burning fuel. The wing then breaks off and collapses.
- robocat 1y agoThe attack worked against those aircraft because they were fueled. Why were they loaded with fuel?
- morkalork 1y agoMaintain a high level of readiness? At one point during the cold war, the US had B-52s not only fueled and ready to go but also airborne 24/7 (operation chrome dome). Could also just be fuel vapors in the tanks going off too. Do bears have rigid tanks? In WW2 there was a big difference in survival between planes that did vs ones with bladders that collapsed as fuel was consumed.
- robocat 1y agoIf they were nuclear bombers, then an attack on nuclear deterrent infrastructure should really put the shits up the US (what if Russia mistook who was attacking?). From another article (although maybe journalist is making shit up): The attacks that went after the heart of Russia's strategic [bomber] capabilities and one arm of its nuclear deterrent should serve as a global wake-up call. Also if they are part of Russia's strategic military assets, then wouldn't Russia wonder if the US was a secret puppetmaster?
- lmz 1y agoThe US, a secret puppetmaster?
- morkalork 1y agoTu-95 bears are indeed Russia's equivalent of a B-52 long range strategic bomber. You can see four of them burning in one video alone. A nuclear state losing one third of a leg in their nuclear triad in one morning to asymmetric warfare should put a fire under everyone's ass.
- pmfgpmfg 1y agoOf course they will. russia, and russians disparage Ukrainians as a default. A success such as this will absolutely be blamed on “Western puppentmasters” rather than absolute mastery by Ukrainians. After all, the alcoholic descendants of a subservient Mongol enforcers couldn’t possibly have had their ass handed to them by Ukrainians. This is standard russian racism, beaten into them throughout the generations.
- myk9001 1y agoThey didn't mistake anything and aren't wondering about anything. Here's a primer on how these things work in Russia. You can be as careful as you want, if they decide they want confrontation with the US, they'll make up a reason. If they don't feel confrontation is in their best interest, you can hit Moscow with a Tomahawk and, magically, no one will notice anything but a clapping sound.
- mmooss 1y ago> if they decide they want confrontation with the US, they'll make up a reason That is true, but they also perceive interests that can result in confrontations, for very real reasons.
- dragonwriter 1y ago> If they were nuclear bombers They were nuclear-capable bombers that have regularly been used to attack Ukraine with conventional weapons (mostly cruise missiles.) > Also if they are part of Russia's strategic military assets, then wouldn't Russia wonder if the US was a secret puppetmaster? Increasing distrust between Putin and the Trump Administration would also be a coup for Ukraine, but, no, I don't think that's a real threat here.
- cosmicgadget 1y agoThis president is not puppeteering an attack on Russia, particularly on the eve of his peace negotiation. No, it's almost as if Ukraine has a good reason to blow up the planes that airstrike them.
- rsynnott 1y agoThe “what if Putin’s delicate feelings are bruised” style of Russian propaganda is just increasingly absurd at this point, honestly. Ukraine cannot be expected to put up with these bombers hitting their cities on a rather flimsy theory that damaging the precious bombers might result in more Russian aggression. In practice, Ukraine has significantly reduced Russia’s _capacity_ for such aggression with this move. Russia only has a limited number of working bombers, and they’re irreplaceable.
- hshdhdhj4444 1y agoRussia has been using these planes to bomb Ukrainian cities. They also have a pattern of engaging in massive attacks right before major diplomatic events. Russia and Ukraine have peace discussions scheduled for June 2 so Ukraine probably (and apparently correctly) anticipated Russia would be loading up for a bombing campaign the night before.
- at0mic22 1y agoI find it more interesting seeing tires on the wings. Would assume that drones do not drop cumulative ammo, but the shrapnel ones. Those tires in theory should have protected from smaller pieces flying around causing a mess of a damage. Russian media reports of 2-4 planes being destroyed while others are damaged. Think this dumb cheap hack actually helped a lot in minimizing the effectiveness of the strike.
- dieortin 1y agoThey didn’t drop any ammo, the drones themselves exploded on top of the wings, making the plane catch fire. So if there were tires (I didn’t see any) they didn’t do much to protect the planes. Also, I don’t know why you would consider the reports in russian media. There’s more than 4 planes being destroyed on video.
- at0mic22 1y agoIt does not really matter, as long as it is not cumulative, its spreading smaller particles around. The proven historical rule of thumb is take ukrainian reports, take russian reports, and the truth is in the middle. You'd have to question your own sanity to trust numbers from either side blindfoldingly
- tokai 1y ago>the truth is in the middle No it isn't. Russia's reports are complete fabrications.
- at0mic22 1y agoIn 2022 Ukraine reported Russia has missiles for 3 days. Trustworthy.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> in 2022 Ukraine reported Russia has missiles for 3 days Source? (Kyiv was agitating for Western aid in 2022. It would be odd for them to be downplaying the threat.)
- baby_souffle 1y agoLoaded with fuel so they could be up in the air ASAP, probably.
- comrade1234 1y agoImagine this scenario... Ukraine tells USA that they're launching long-range drone attacks on Russian strategic bomber bases. USA tells Russia through back-channels. Russia preps bombers to fly if the long-range attacks are launched. Ukraine launches short-range attacks too fast for the bombers to escape.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago> Why were they loaded with fuel? Arrogance. My Diamond Star stays fuelled. But I’m not committing imbecilic war crimes.
- duxup 1y agoIt’s interesting that amidst the attack there’s nobody trying to put out the fires or such activity.
- 3eb7988a1663 1y agoYou mean when there were hostile drones in the sky? Fire suppression takes a back seat when risking your life for some aircraft is going to do nothing to change the immediate engagement.
- duxup 1y agoAs far as front line troops we don't expect everyone to hide when the shooting starts. I suspect the definition of front line has changed with drones.
- 3eb7988a1663 1y agoWho said anything about hiding? When enemy forces are attacking, first priority is repelling the attack. Stopping the active drones and/or defending against potential follow-up infantry crews.
- slt2021 1y agothese bombers were fueled to the gills for the fire mission and armed with cruise missiles. kinda risky to be anywhere around them due to secondary explosion risk
- tim333 1y agoFrom the start of the attack to the video is probably only a couple of minutes. Firefighters would have to get up, get their gear together etc.