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US authorities are collecting DNA information of children in criminal database
- userbinator 1y agoTitle left out an important word: immigrant children.
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- ajross 1y agoComment left out an even more important thing: context for why that matters. Is there a scenario where collecting DNA from native kids is bad in a way that it is not for immigrant (excuse me, "immigrant") kids? Can you explain? Seems like a general principle at work here to me.
- giantg2 1y agoI don't think that's an important word to include. The collection is occurring for citizen children too.
- lithos 1y agoNew Jersey has this of everyone born in the state, and frequently leases out the data to anyone willing to pay. (Taken from blood samples that are used to test for otherwise lethal allergies to babies) It's immensely profitable and cost saving for crime (IE using baby Y genes to find males 4 to 7 generations up/down the bloodline). So makes sense why every govt. org that can force collection will.
- WarOnPrivacy 1y ago> New Jersey has this of everyone born in the state, and frequently leases out the data to anyone willing to pay. Yes. refs: https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/08/new-jersey-cops-are-using-dna-drawn-from-newborns-in-criminal-investigations/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/08/08/new-jersey-cops-are-usin... https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/02/new-jersey-trying-to-salvage-its-sketchy-af-infant-dna-harvesting-program-by-claiming-its-all-about-health/ https://www.techdirt.com/2024/08/02/new-jersey-trying-to-sal... https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/03/new-jersey-sued-again-for-giving-cops-access-to-newborn-babies-dna/ https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/03/new-jersey-sued-again-fo...
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- lenerdenator 1y agoThis was always a risk when we decided that data was worth something to people who weren't the generators of the data. At least for the foreseeable future (2028 being the earliest a real change could be made), the best way to handle this will be to ready yourself for when tyranny comes to you.
- MangoToupe 1y agoI have little to say about the genetic collection, which is obviously "concerning". But the willingness people have to go along with demonization of someone merely for the crime of entering this country without permission makes me sick.
- userbinator 1y agofor the crime of entering this country without permission Why do borders exist?
- jaoane 1y agoEvery time I read a question like this I have to wonder if it's asked in good faith. Most likely no.
- kgwxd 1y agoWith an about of "Make Software Great Again", definitely not.
- const_cast 1y agoRight, these people are constructing a straw man. Nobody believes borders shouldn't exist. Well, nobody we care about anyway. But we can all acknowledge that how ICE has been handling border affairs has been criminal.
- MangoToupe 1y ago> border affairs has been criminal. More importantly, it's wrong.
- MangoToupe 1y agoYou're not ever going to rationally convince me that ICE (or, CBP in this case) as it stands today is doing anything positive for most people in this country. And the folks it does benefit benefit from other behavior I find repugnant, like temporary work visas paying well under a livable wage, and media personalities who make money by driving easily-manipulated people into a frothing rage. Not that I ever expect the people baying for blood to care one iota for other people's perspectives. It must be such a thrill to think you're being invaded by your neighborhood line cook.
- adolph 1y agoThe DNA Fingerprint Act of 2005 (the Act) and a subsequent regulation effective in 2009 established requirements for federal law enforcement agencies to collect DNA from individuals who are arrested, facing criminal charges or convicted, and from certain detained noncitizens. From a 2023 inspector general report which is informative about how the program works. https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106252.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106252.pdf
- giantg2 1y agoThis isn't anything new, right? You don't have to be convicted of a felony for compelled collection. This doesn't just apply to immigrants.